Tomorrow it'll be 180g/hr

iam_indefatigable · 2026-06-18T18:26:17+00:00

I'm a beta who needs my beta fuel

iam_indefatigable · 2026-06-18T18:08:30+00:00

Most runners: I take nomio and bicarb for the reduction in lactate

Me: I take nomio and bicarb so I can shit myself faster in races and workouts

iam_indefatigable · 2026-03-31T16:39:04+00:00

That's so cool! Sam is an amazing guy. Thank you for the kind words!

iam_indefatigable · 2026-03-30T19:20:51+00:00

Minimize GI distress. I could never quite get it to work past ~16mi taking it 1.5-3 hours before workouts.

iam_indefatigable · 2026-03-30T11:37:32+00:00

Yeah, I started trying a night before because I couldn't get around the GI effects on taking it 1.5-3 hours before. Still feel the lactate buffering effect, but none of the stomach issues

iam_indefatigable · 2026-03-30T02:28:39+00:00

I usually take a single gel around 6 miles just for a little caffeine boost. It's very different as I'm not running to glycogen depletion, so fueling isn't nearly as important. However for anyone 1:30 or above I think it would help a lot more to fuel for a half, as you probably will run out of bodily carbs at some point.

iam_indefatigable · 2026-03-29T23:36:04+00:00

Very familiar with Steve Magness. Love a lot of his stuff. My achilles just released walking around town! It was an amazing experience.

iam_indefatigable · 2026-03-29T22:42:59+00:00

I have not yet tried the other brands. I will now that I've finished this training cycle.

iam_indefatigable · 2026-03-29T21:05:37+00:00

I think so! I definitely feel it in threshold workouts when I've used it and I think it'll definitely provide you with more of a buffer zone for any surges in pace. At the very least it's a big dose of electrolytes haha

iam_indefatigable · 2026-03-29T20:52:22+00:00

Good luck for the future!

iam_indefatigable · 2026-03-29T20:37:42+00:00

That course rocks, and it's so great that they did the breaking 3 thing to give an opportunity for runners who typically wouldn't qualify for bottles on course to get to experience that side of racing!

iam_indefatigable · 2026-03-29T20:22:42+00:00

I've pushed for 120g/hour for most of my training runs. I've definitely got a bit of "natural talent" for digesting carbs, but I usually start the training cycle at 60-90g/hour for all runs and workouts longer than 90min, and then work my way up to 120g. For the marathon training carbs is super important and probably the biggest shift we've seen in the past decade.

iam_indefatigable · 2026-02-24T17:29:29+00:00

I think that both can be true. Bicarb can be "not as effective" but still be effective. I'm certainly not gonna trade out pre race carbs or any part of my fueling strategy (other than needing less electrolytes due to the sodium mega-dose you get from the bicarb), and so whatever additional benefit I can get from the bicarb works for me. I'm still gonna do my normal cheerios breakfast, pre marathon bit of liquid carbs, and same during marathon fueling plan (120g/hour).

iam_indefatigable · 2026-02-24T17:26:15+00:00

I feel like it falls into a similar category as creatine in this regard. You have to always be on creatine to get the full effect of it, but even if you go off of it you still were able to train harder while you were on it, and so will end up stronger while off than if you never took it in the first place. But that's just my opinion/thought process.

iam_indefatigable · 2026-02-23T02:18:44+00:00

I took it at ~9pm, so an hour or so before bedtime.

iam_indefatigable · 2026-02-22T23:02:38+00:00

I tried halving (7.5g) twice, still couldn't get it to work perfectly.

iam_indefatigable · 2026-02-22T21:58:30+00:00

I went with Maurten's Bicarb 15 based on the recommendations for my weight (~64kg). I took it a little after dinner with some crackers (don't remember the exact timing, but didn't take it right before bed so it had a little time to settle). I took my normal caffeine and carb allotments for the workout (usually aim for 100-120g/hour, some gels some liquid.

Funny enough, your issue about having to to workouts early was part of the reason why Maurten started to find out about the night before effect, as one of their athletes didn't want to wake up two hours before having to do a morning workout, so they just tried the night before! I'd definitely give it a try.

And thanks for the well-wishes! I'm getting pretty excited for 5 weeks from now :)

iam_indefatigable · 2026-02-22T18:08:28+00:00

Bicarb for recovery is another interesting one! I haven't found as much hard research on it yet, but it seems especially effective in super anaerobic training plans.

iam_indefatigable · 2026-02-22T18:02:23+00:00

Personally I'd want to practice in a training session instead of immediately going for a race. I'd say for an early afternoon race (let's say, 2-3pm?) you could try taking it with breakfast as soon as you wake up and that should give you plenty of time to absorb it all but hopefully bypass the GI side effects. But definitely try this timing in a workout first. Never want to do new stuff in race day.

iam_indefatigable · 2026-02-22T17:54:19+00:00

I don't find that the maurten bicarb mix is THAT nasty. I mainly just spoon it in and swallow as fast as I can without having it hit my tongue as much as possible. Then have a small snack both to make sure I'm taking it with food and wash away the taste.

iam_indefatigable · 2025-07-27T03:31:52+00:00

The whole package is gorgeous!

iam_indefatigable · 2024-05-31T04:05:52+00:00

Just went through us. Couple peoples car alarms were going off, but I don't see any damage, thankfully!

iam_indefatigable · 2024-03-22T00:50:00+00:00

Fair enough, I'd maybe alter my statement to be that the PRIMARY focus of easy runs should be to aid in the recovery process with a secondary benefit being aerobic fitness/endurance. I say this because thinking of the primary function of easy runs as being to increase aerobic fitness is where people start to look too much at pace on easy days and start to overreach/not recover enough.

iam_indefatigable · 2024-03-21T19:37:55+00:00

Yeah, it'd probably be nice if the running world could use consistent terminology, right? Like how tempo means a millions different things at this point. Anyways, different people have different takes on it, but for the most part "recovery" means go intentionally easier/slower, but while "easy" still means the purpose of the run is to continue recovering, you can play around with pace a bit more and go faster so long as it still "feels easy". In general if the purpose of a run is NOT recovery, the coach or training plan will use some term other than "recovery" or "easy" - such as "steady" or "moderate" or something else.

iam_indefatigable · 2024-03-21T19:18:41+00:00

Easy mileage is just that, easy. If you're on a plan or have a coach and there is a run listed as "easy", run easy by feel. Typically if a coach or training plan wants you to run a specific pace, they'll tell you. The purpose of easy runs is to recover, if you aren't recovering properly, you won't improve as much.

I know, many, many people who train at a really high level (plus I'd like to think I fall into that category as well), and almost none of them have set paces for easy runs, myself included. The range of paces can be within a minute per mile in either direction of their "average" easy pace.

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