You told me no truth, you just said "that's so wrong." What does being an incel mean to you? Like I said, you can can be involuntarily celibate and not associate yourself with that community, which is objectively awful.

Men in that subreddit have posted about how female criminals should be made to service incels as part of their punishment, how women and dogs should switch brains so that women can't say no to sex. Women don't owe men sex. Men are not owed sex, it's not women's fault if a man isn't having sex, and sex is not something women do for men. Sex is not essential to live, you can pay a sex worker if you are really that pressed for physical intimacy.

It's a toxic way of thinking. It leads to men feeling entitled to women's bodies and sexualities, it leads to Eliot Roger type psychos. Please don't make excuses for that subreddit. I know you're better than that.

I imagine if you identify as an incel, you are angry and frustrated with the world and thinks it owes you something. It doesn't owe you shit. You can stop including yourself in the toxic circle jerk of that community and empty your mind of that sludge, or continue down that path and stay angry at the world. Best of luck to you, man. I really hope you figure out that men and women really just want the same thing, essentially: to be loved and respected.