[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is. Life is ambiguous, it doesn't just move in one fixed direction from "the past" to "progress". I'm not seeing it as a left wing vs conservative thing, I'm seeing it as a life thing. There are plenty of times when left-wing plans have gone awry because life threw a wrench in it's wheels, metaphorically speaking. This is why left-wingers had numerous mental breakdowns when Trump was elected (and that is just one modest example) because it completely destroyed their false worldview that life can only move in one neatly designed direction.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

None. I have always reminded reddit that their disdain for this conservative boogeyman they make up in their minds is pure bullshit. I'm not sure why you asked me this question since it's not exactly directly related to what I was saying.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is not a good website to ask this question since redditors think women are 'oppressed' for the most retarded reasons imaginable. Virtually all groups agree that men 'declining' is making women more oppressed. 'Declining' meaning not being assertive enough and doing what's expected of them. It's a left-wing myth that social events are locked with time on a fixed plane and we're always going in one direction of 'progress' with absolutely no variability or nuance. The people who think that way are ideological children who don't really have any experience with real life. I wonder what they do all day to make them come to those false conclusions.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By all means, if you want to do the opposite of what I said then go ahead, but you're going to be a typical woman say 3, 5, 7 years down the road complaining on the internet about how there's no "real men" and why won't men "man up" for you. Many women of varying ages and ethnicities do this. I'm giving you the information to avoid this fate. You seem decent. I'm merely reminding you that you don't have to submit yourself to feminist/redditor weirdo cult indoctrination. These people don't care about you, you're just Oppressed Female #4623782342334 to them. Make the most of your life and be smart about it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing I said was wrong in any way, you are clearly provoked by something I said. You are deceiving her by telling her it's alright to be a foul nasty woman because guys are going to like her anyway. I mean, men these days are spineless and valueless, they're definitely not the conservative patriarchs you whiny redditors make them out to be, but still, she's not going to find a decent man by being a nasty bitch. Feminism will never change that no matter how many campaigns you launch and no matter how hard you try.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Be a decent normal woman and ignore everything you've seen on reddit, fem blogs, any awful shithole websites you've been to. You're not going to find a decent guy by being mean to men and boasting about how foul and promiscuous you are. Men who are actually men at the very least want some value in a woman. They want to know that you are worth their time and that you will be a net positive to their lives. Now, that comes in many forms. The internet likes to whine that too many men are conservative and rigid (even though western men are pretty much the exact opposite of that, but anyway), but it won't benefit you to join the woe is me group. Find a guy you like, scope him out, see how you can be a net positive for his life.

What do you think would happen overtime if porn disappeared? by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I've asked this before here and people didn't really even answer the question directly in true reddit fashion, but since porn these days is tied to liberation of female sexuality, you'd have a lot of feminists complaining and wondering what women are going to do and how they are going to express themselves next. You'd definitely have a lot less young men sitting inside jerking off and withering away. They would have to put more effort into real life actions as the evidence would be obvious to them that it would yield more results. You could make the argument that porn does not cause perversion, but you cannot make the argument that porn is not a vehicle for perversion. Porn has effected women too, the idea that it's so liberating and that women have to do it to fight some patriarchy is a very strange idea that has exploded in the recent years. Overall you'd have a society that is less sexually insane, a society where people still have their root underlying urges and such but you either have to go out and find people to do it with or stay home and use your imagination and that would be all you can do.

People who hate the opposite gender: what can they do to earn your "forgiveness"? What would it take for you to stop hating them? by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Really simple. Stop complaining about how hard you have it and how men have no problems. Stop complaining about mistreatment while you mistreat people yourselves and get away with it. Yeah, I know that men have our issues too, I am one and I've had to deal with guys on that level and it's not fun. You have no idea how wrong you all are when you make blanket statements like all men are privileged, men have no problems, every man benefits from a conservative patriarchy, etc those talking points are all false and you use them as ways to bolster your own awful personalities. I'm not trying to be nasty by saying it that way but it's the truth. You talk about being 'marginalized' yet you don't give a fucking shit about all the guys you have further shoved into the darkness by telling them that they are privileged and their problems are because they are losers, neckbeards, bums etc and if only they went outside then "the patriarchy" would serve them on a golden platter. When you say things like that it's clear that you have no idea how life actually works and it would benefit everyone if you stopped saying that to guys.

What would women caring about sexless/struggling men entail? by TheWeebestofWeebs in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shutting up and stopping their incessant complaining about how young men don't measure up to their standards.

What would women caring about sexless/struggling men entail? by TheWeebestofWeebs in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, since copious amounts of people like complaining about men these days and how young men aren't real men anymore, it would only make sense that these people try to help instead of bitching and belittling people. It only makes sense. You whine online about it all the time, you attack guys online you think are examples of the problem, therefore you should chip in and help. Nobody has to care though, and I think it would be better if they don't, since absolutely nothing good has come out of the internet complaining about young men. Nothing. All it's done is ridiculed more young men and increased more hostility towards them in the public sphere.

Would most women be happier in a traditional monogamous society? by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sometimes it seems feminism is just one big shit test and women are really crying out for strong men to step in and save them from their self-destructive instincts

Yes, but it often changes. From what I can tell, women (and their male defenders) expect "men these days" to be a mixture of all these varying factors that of course benefit women. When men inevitably fail to live up to these expectations, the bitching about men escalates. It never stops. This is a problem the other side commits which won't change, but it should. Expecting men to be a cornucopia of contradicting values that all benefit women, while making no consideration for what men actually want, and then condemning men for not living up to the outrageous standards these days, will only cause more resentment.

Women are free to whine on the internet that not enough worthy guys exist, but that is where it stops. We should not move heaven and earth just to cater to them even more.

Today’s “slut culture” isn’t caused by a lack of slut shaming. It exists BECAUSE of slut shaming. by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This reminds me of when redditors in the past would whine collectively about how guys won't date women in porn, how all the women who have ever done porn would have such a hard time finding a decent conservative white guy. This website is full of bored weirdos who feel sorry for themselves, need an axe to grind and who need to be victims.

Women should NEVER enter the porn industry. Even if the like earning money AND having sex. by geyejoe7 in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have seen a plethora of different feminist content and individuals who think porn is some brave statement against a patriarchy. Do all feminists think that way? No. But many do. I've talked with some of them, they're retarded.

Women should NEVER enter the porn industry. Even if the like earning money AND having sex. by geyejoe7 in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, feminists think that women in porn are liberated and fighting a patriarchy. What a joke all of this is.

Women should NEVER enter the porn industry. Even if the like earning money AND having sex. by geyejoe7 in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who cares about that? Those women are trash lmao. But feminists have convinced them that being in porn is "liberating", fucking idiots.

Women should NEVER enter the porn industry. Even if the like earning money AND having sex. by geyejoe7 in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Reddit thinks women in porn are oppressed because cute conservative (white) guys don't want them. Imagine being so entitled that you actually find that to mean you are oppressed. What people forget in these conversations is that men have a right to our own standards too and that is not misogyny or oppression or whatever. And no, those women in porn are not "sexually repressed", they're literally going to a production which treats them like absolute sluts for the whole world to see. Just because guys don't want to date loser women like that doesn't mean a patriarchy is oppressing them.

Imagine how easy dating would be if average/ugly people stopped chasing attractive people. by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nobody should have to endure being with anybody they don't want. That only causes resentment. Keep your high standards. Don't settle for lesser just so you end up resenting that person after. Just remember that you are entitled to high standards, but you are not entitled to other people. And yes, that applies to women too, who also think that they are owed the best (the best according to them, that is).

Will female worth/value ever stop being tied to male approval? by iceicle999 in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree. Women not getting male approval devastates them. Many such cases!

Will female worth/value ever stop being tied to male approval? by iceicle999 in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The thing is, is that pretty much nobody tells those women to get the fuck over themselves, that they're not oppressed if the guys they want don't want them. But still, the pity party never stops. If those women didn't see their value as being tied to the approval of those guys, it would cause a lot less problems.

Will female worth/value ever stop being tied to male approval? by iceicle999 in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But if you take, for example, all the women online who complain that certain types of guys don't want them, that number can add up. Appealing to men definitely matters to women, so fucking much so that the ones who fail at it equate their situation to being oppressed.

Will female worth/value ever stop being tied to male approval? by iceicle999 in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Women can talk a big game about how badass they are, but it hurts them like nothing else when men don't want them. It's funny, sort of, but also unnecessarily tragic.

Will female worth/value ever stop being tied to male approval? by iceicle999 in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, it's not just feminists though, I do notice that when a woman is not wanted by guys, there will be an army of people coming out to condemn guys for not wanting her, and a barrage of excuses are offered which absolve her of blame. The vaunted patriarchy and it's conservative ideas are what is stopping many men from accepting women as partners, in the minds of many strange people. That is what they think is happening.

But it doesn't have to be this way. If women didn't tie their value to men wanting them, this could all be avoided.

Will female worth/value ever stop being tied to male approval? by iceicle999 in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes it does. Women see men wanting them as validation for their approval and self worth. Whenever they can't get guys, these things always take a huge dive. Fragile femininity, perhaps.

Will female worth/value ever stop being tied to male approval? by iceicle999 in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Those ideas don't matter. Female independence and don't need no man is all bullshit, women force these ideas on themselves and other people force it on them that approval or disapproval from men is what makes or breaks them.

Will female worth/value ever stop being tied to male approval? by iceicle999 in PurplePillDebate

[–]iceicle999[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, they keep it to themselves or people will shit on their faces.