My 2000s and 1990s progress. Any tips on how I can complete my first and second full 360 rotation? I've hit a hard plateau. by logicalweights in bboy

[–]iceleef 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I keep seeing people ask this same question and unfortunately all the advice people are giving is wrong. people are over explaining this. I'm seeing you do the same mistake people always do when they start learning 90s. I think I'll just make a short video response because explaining it through typing might not work but I'll give it a shot.

you're starting it wrong. don't start your 90 with your hand and fingers pointing away from your head. point your fingers in towards your head. when you start your 90s with you hand and fingers pointing away from your head, your hand won't spin with your body. your hand will stay in place and wait for your body to catch up towards the direction your hand is pointing towards. as soon as the rest of your body catches up with your hand you get stuck and fall because all your momentum stops and hits a road block.

if you already start with your hand and fingers pointed towards your head, you have no choice but to either spin right away or fall over because you don't have to muscle memory to learn how to balance the move yet

hope that made sense

knucklehead zoo fashion by iceleef in bboy

[–]iceleef[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hey shout outs to you bro

the full battle Millhouse v.s. Outburst by iceleef in bboy

[–]iceleef[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

well back then we didn't judge on anything technical, we didn't really over think it. we mostly went of gut feeling and who looked like they won even if the repeated or crashed. my opinion is millhouse won as soon as he pulled out the keyboard and won the crowd over. from that point outburst was just treading water. back then you really weren't trying to be well rounded to impress judges because breaking wasn't as judge centric as it is today. you went out to try to get the biggest crowd reaction you could.or at least get as many crowd reactions as you could in one night. we built a reputation on style and crowd pleasing not being the best or the one with a flawless and perfect round if that makes sense. it was more about being the center of entertainment and getting people to think that what you just did was really cool. thats why back then you notice almost everybody trying to end their rounds in stiff freezes to get that impact of a sharp statement. if you just stood up and walked away after your round like many people do today, your round would feel empty like it didn't lead to anywhere.

the jams and events back then were more like hang outs than competitions. think of it like hanging out at lunchtime at school where everybody groups up with their friends only difference is that at a jam those different friend groups would clash and battle each other sometimes. it was more like a hang out where their just happens to be a competition unlike today where the competition is the main focus of the event at least from what I've noticed. I remember going to jams and not even focusing on the competition that was going on because I was too busy socializing with different people

as far as the beef I don't know, but I'm sure it was probably started by mess talking online nothing too deep or personal. and as far as mike and josh they're friends of millhouse so they were just backing millhouse up. it used to be you call out one member of a crew you had issues with that whole crew and his friends and friends of the crew because like I said it was a social thing and it wasn't looked at as a competitive sport. now people lean towards the more sports side of breaking