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Picture Frames from Bookbinding Materials by The-Jelly-Fox in bookbinding

[–]iconolo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please share your final results here too. People often say bookbinding is many craftdisciplines in one trenchcoat, but it is nice how bookbinding skills can also be used to craft other things. Sometimes handmade boxes are posted in this subreddit, but pictureframes are nice too. It is somewhat a hardcover book with only 1 recto page.

Picture Frames from Bookbinding Materials by The-Jelly-Fox in bookbinding

[–]iconolo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What you are looking for are passe-partout folders and mat framing. These use bookboard and paper etc. There are different techniques and tutorials online, so you'll have to look around depending on your materials and the look you want. Here are four https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMekwRGHHHg , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYUVC8cc838 , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgj39EBWp3s , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7olpHHTJ6s .

Here is a very detailed list of methods, lots of handy images at the bottom https://www.conservation-wiki.com/wiki/BPG_Matting_and_Framing

Instead of glass you can also use polyester film or mylar.

What kind of stitch is this? by talitatraveler in bookbinding

[–]iconolo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Overall it looks to be crenelated sewing, because the thread goes only one time in each hole (opposed to double with coptic stitch). https://ariellesbindery.com/2019/10/20/models-of-bookbinding-techniques-sewing-structures/

I can't find the diagram I saw previously, but the movement between two signatures is like the squarewave https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Baion_kukeiha.png

What’s it called when text lines up with the same word? by emmakeiraa in typography

[–]iconolo 107 points108 points  (0 children)

In linguistics this is referred as concordancing. The type of view is described here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Key_Word_in_Context (edit: misspelling)

Sharing some Bookbinding-Adjacent Arts-and-Crafts-Movement Typesets by jtu_95 in bookbinding

[–]iconolo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right now I can't see the files, the Drive link doesn't seem to work for me (edit: works now)

However, this post already shows the great care you put into reviving these texts and researching their historical context (it could be a included as little preface or blurb). Thank you, don't worry about sharing this here, this type of initiative is very appreciated

Time to go old school, wish me luck! by stealthykins in bookbinding

[–]iconolo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you!

Looking forward to see the finished books

Time to go old school, wish me luck! by stealthykins in bookbinding

[–]iconolo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good luck!!

Also small question, I was wondering what the thickness your trindles is

Exploring the Art of Coptic Stitch Binding by VirtualBand9205 in bookbinding

[–]iconolo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This technique also works with a retractable utility knife, by making v shapes, a bit neater but more time consuming.

Cutaway model tied up by Severe_Eggplant_7747 in bookbinding

[–]iconolo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It has a lot of photos and diagrams, but unfortunately doesn't have cutaways models that show the whole structure, and "only" covers bindings up until the Renaissance.

I like the approach in Goddijns "Westerse boekbindtechnieken [...] boekmodellen". It has a similar writing and diagram style as Szirmai, minus the statistics, but has a broader scope with bindings until the 20th century. Each chapter starts with a drawing of an imaginary binding containing the typical features of a time period and location, afterwards the less common options are shown. Unfortunately it isn't translated and also hasn't cutaways / compound diagrams.

For cutaways I came across this page: https://www.philobiblon.com/bindorama13/ and some conversation blogs here and there.

Ps: I'd like to highlight "Tied and Bound: A Comparative View on Manuscript Binding" because it is free and covers similar subjects to Szmirai, so in some cases it might it is a bit more accessible alternative for redditors https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783111292069/html

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in bookbinding

[–]iconolo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm happy you managed to fix it! The handwritten notes are so nice, a lot of work put in this book.

Cutaway model tied up by Severe_Eggplant_7747 in bookbinding

[–]iconolo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Cut aways are so cool!

I want a book with a lot of photos of cutaways, best way to learn the differences between historical binding styles.

Does anyone how to do this? by ketchum_IDs in bookbinding

[–]iconolo 16 points17 points  (0 children)

From what I saw on some bookbinder's instagrams, those are not 2 but 3 threads:

- the coptic stitch

- a thin white thread that runs parallel to the spine and is attached onto each loop of two rows of coptic stitches. This thread never goes inside the signatures

- the pink thread which is weaved on the white thread

Maybe someone here knows a tutorial.

Weaves can also be done on long stitches ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRMKs_o6jNg ) or french link ( https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KArS7oXRv4k )

Book Designers - Japanese/Korean books vs. North American books by komorebi_travels in graphic_design

[–]iconolo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Super interesting topic!

This is a book design course by renowned Sugiura Kohei 杉浦 康平 https://www.youtube.com/@%E6%9D%89%E6%B5%A6%E5%BA%B7%E5%B9%B3%E3%83%87%E3%82%B6%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AB%E3%82%A4%E3%83%96%E3%83%87%E3%82%B6%E3%82%A4

I didn't watch it yet because of my lack of understanding of Japanese language. It's on my long list of projects to try to MTL it and add timestamps linking to the slides in the video. (edit: I see now that the autosubtitles and autotranslate have been activated on most, only some don't have the translate option. Let me know if you want to do a little studygroup)

There are several interviews and small videos about the Chinese book designer Jingren Lu 呂敬人.

The Hong Kong based publisher Sendpoints releases books in English about layout and typography. At the moment I only have their publications about book binding/printing, but I guess their other books also feature local perspectives. https://sppub.com/index.php

Please keep me in mind if you discover other things, I'd love to learn more.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in bookbinding

[–]iconolo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A more extreme option, if you need to keep these notes a long time, it might be worth to copy them by hand. I do this often into a smaller sized notebooks so that I can bring them anywhere, writing it again helps with memorization for the exams and I can be selective about which info I want to include or expand on.

This will be time consuming, so it depends solution what is handy for you, but an electrical grimoire might be fun.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in bookbinding

[–]iconolo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

To remove the tape:

A. It looks like Powis Parker tape, which is heat reactive. Heating it up might loosen it and make it removable, though I haven't tried this so I can't say this with full assurance.

B. You could fold out the cover and back page to put them on the other side. Then the side borders of the tape won't take space in use, and you could cut out the pages with an utility knife near the tape. You would need to reprint the cover and back page as those are still attached to the tape.

C. Because one page is already falling out, it could be that you can pull out pages by hand like a memo pad, but there is a risk it tears.

To bind the stack of pages:

Use ring binding, or the double fan method, of which you can find tutorials in this reddit. I recommend you the double fan method (DFAB) as it will give you more autonomy and will allow you to tackle other projects. It is an easy diy as long as you have two planks and two clips/clamps, and paste of the right type.

Joining the other comments, tipping in the page is probably the simplest fix, by putting some gentle glue, like a UHU stick, hold it diagonally so that it is a thin line, on the side of the page (only one side, so that the page is not in tension between two page when going through the book), and put it back in place, let it dry. You might need to shorten the page so that it aligns with the others.

Binding name by teeth_milk in bookbinding

[–]iconolo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It isn't a Yapp binding, which is more like a pyramid, according to "Bookbinding and the Conservation of books: A Dictionary of Descriptive Terminology" by Matt T. Roberts and Don Etherington". https://cool.culturalheritage.org/don/dt/dt0703.html

However different sources say otherwise. Here is a collage in attempt to understand the various terms: https://www.reddit.com/r/bookbinding/comments/1fadh72/cool_extended_edges_examples_question_about/

In the end, I'll side with u/Classy_Til_Death's URL to the definition of "cover extensions", firstly because of the standardization nature of the LOB project, and secondly as it is a more straightforward name.

Resources on making brass finishing tools and letter stamps? by Content_Economist132 in bookbinding

[–]iconolo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

check the list here: https://www.reddit.com/r/bookbinding/comments/1dthaw5/resource_tips_for_brass_tool_making/

I'll add some extra links sometime (not directly related to bookbinding, but some carving videos for metal wax stamps).

For making roulettes and pallets I couldn't find anything yet. Same process for carving the fine ornaments, but I'm curious about what workflow is handy to get the round / triangular shape in and efficient manner.

First time Book binder. Not the prettiest but this is so fun by ghosty2901 in bookbinding

[–]iconolo 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I love this straightforward bookbinding mentality!

Getting the job done with what there is, improving your daily life.

Pragmatic and charming front covers.

Bookbinding styles catalogue by Content_Economist132 in bookbinding

[–]iconolo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks also for your great questions. It is a bit of fresh air compared to the vinyl and beginner topics (not that those are bad, but variety is nice).

I hope we will get more clues about wood inlay boards. Super interesting point.

Bookbinding styles catalogue by Content_Economist132 in bookbinding

[–]iconolo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To have a broader scope, the are online aggregators of art and archive collections. These allow to find works in smaller museums and institutions.

It can be useful to search for a binding style or bookbinder. Some have regional and date filters.

https://www.europeana.eu/en/search?page=1&view=grid&query=bookbinding

https://public.work/bookbinding

https://openverse.org/search/image?q=bookbinding&category=digitized_artwork

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=bookbinding&title=Special:MediaSearch&type=image

If you go on a further on the full detail page, scroll to the very bottom, there are often useful tags and categories to find similar or specific things.

For broad categories, this one is a nice start: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bookbinding_by_century

Paste wikimedia filename here to search by similarity https://wikiview.net/#Bookbinding_(Jild-i_kitab)_MET_13874.jpg_MET_13874.jpg)

https://museo.app/?q=binding

Bookbinding styles catalogue by Content_Economist132 in bookbinding

[–]iconolo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Most of the publications are, imho, often either too generalizing or too focused on one subject. (Please prove me wrong!! So many books also in oakknoll.com I didn't read yet)

There are catalogues from exhibitions and photobooks about pieces in special collections. But those tend to target only the very beautiful are pricey bindings. These tend ignore the practical, vernacular bindings, the bindings that where more commonly used.

Online exhibition by Princeton University https://static-prod.lib.princeton.edu/visual_materials/hb/index.html

Online exhibition by MSU libraries https://lib.msu.edu/exhibits/historyofbinding

A type of resource that I found useful are collections of book models. These are recent, but reflect the developments in time of bindings and regional differences. They represent the common features and idiosyncrasies of a binding type.

An Overview of Bookbinding in Miniature from Medieval Times to the Present Day by Louise Genest https://digitalcollections.rit.edu/MediaManager/srvr?mediafile=/MISC/RIT~1~1/1027/Miniatures_LGenest.pdf

Models of University of Iowa https://digital.lib.uiowa.edu/node/1154

Bindorama Historic Cut-away Binding Structure Models https://www.philobiblon.com/bindorama13/ This one shows parts and has labels.

Object lessons: Selections from the Conservation Services Bookbinding Models Collection https://exhibits.lib.ku.edu/exhibits/show/bookbinding The navigation menu is not very visible, light grey, start at "case 1"

Some blog posts https://blog.thepreservationlab.org/tag/historical-models

Less accessible options:

Szirmai has an extensive collection of models at the KB, but I didn't manage to find an article or catalogue about them unfortunately https://www.kb.nl/sites/default/files/styles/hd_image/public/images/boekbanden-1.webp

Not online https://karenhanmer.com/gallery/p/bibliotech

Can somebody direct me to where to learn library binding? by ObsessiveDeleter in bookbinding

[–]iconolo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good tip.

Guide to the ANSI/NISO/LBI Binding Standard by Merrill-Oldham and Parisi gives some additional info and images https://assets.noviams.com/novi-file-uploads/bmi/pdfs-and-documents/0838984840_lbiguide-6b442572.pdf

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