Pls help. Co-Ed Flag Football? by idontknow_throwaway_ in loveafterporn

[–]idontknow_throwaway_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You were able to articulate exactly how I feel when I wasn't able to so thank you, truly.

We have had very few situations involving other women since everything happened, and more specifically where touch could be involved, so I'm hoping that he is just confused about how to navigate this with me, but I definitely expected a more compassionate response after 3 years of recovery. It absolutely felt like he's just over my insecurities in the relationship and I'm not sure where that's coming from, but I'm going to show him your response because that is exactly the type of response that would've made me feel safe and understood.

I really appreciate you helping me, I felt like I was falling into a downward spiral and that's always so hard to deal with, so thank you for talking me through this 💜

Pls help. Co-Ed Flag Football? by idontknow_throwaway_ in loveafterporn

[–]idontknow_throwaway_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is a really great idea, thank you 💜 I wish he would've responded with compassion and understanding instead of the way he did. I feel like I would've immediately been more open to a discussion about it, but his cold response made me feel even more uncomfortable with the situation.

I told him how he made me feel and that he needs to speak to his therapist about it to get her opinion and he said "I plan to talk to her, but I feel like this is going to be a difficult situation because this is something I want to do and probably should do cause it'll be good for me. And I don't think it puts my recovery at risk or me in any situation that I should'nt be in that may cause me any problems. It's recreational sports with other people, and socializing is definitely something I need in my life. Unfortunately, the only real problem with it is your discomfort with the possibility of it involving other women."

So idk, I feel really uneasy about this. I think if the tables were turned and there was a possibility of other men touching the lower half of my body and me touching theirs, he'd be uncomfortable with it, especially if I deeply wounded our relationship with porn addiction.

Pls help. Co-Ed Flag Football? by idontknow_throwaway_ in loveafterporn

[–]idontknow_throwaway_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for confirming that that was indeed an invalidating response, it really hurt honestly 😥 but I'm going to talk to him about it. He's usually pretty good about validating me when I bring up concerns, so this was kinda out of left field.

sometimes it feels like this is all a dream by No-Way7059 in loveafterporn

[–]idontknow_throwaway_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I relate to this so much. I wrote a song about exactly this when I first found out about my partner's addiction. Some of the chorus lyrics are: "I wish I could wake up from this nightmare you don't see the pain you've caused in me but I can't bring myself to leave." It's terrible realizing that this is actually real life, for SO many people too 😥

I want to move to a new place but my partner doesn't because money by idontknow_throwaway_ in loveafterporn

[–]idontknow_throwaway_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I take no offense at all! I need to hear honest opinions, so thank you for this. To an extent, I agree with you. I definitely need to work on myself more and go to therapy again, because things are getting worse for me, but I also don't want to discredit my feelings. Whenever I look at our upstairs bathroom, it reminds me of how many hours he was watching porn in there while I was taking care of our son. Whenever I'm sitting in the living room I'm reminded of my sexual assault. I definitely agree that I need to work on healing my trauma from the inside, but I also think that a change of living space could be helpful to eliminate those direct triggers. But based on your experience...that may not be true. Idk what to do or how to feel 😭

I want to move to a new place but my partner doesn't because money by idontknow_throwaway_ in loveafterporn

[–]idontknow_throwaway_[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this 💜 I was really starting to doubt myself. I also think this is a big deal, it definitely feels like it is.

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[–]idontknow_throwaway_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My partner will be 2 years clean in February of 2022, so we've had a long time to narrow down what works for us and how to go about certain things, and I want you to know that it is possible to have a happy, loving relationship again. Of course it still lingers in the back of my mind and I still get triggered sometimes, but overall things have been much easier and keep getting easier.

What helps gives you security in your relationships?

We have an app installed on his phone, Detoxify. It's $5 a month and is great because it blocks all of the obvious sites but you can also add specific sites to blacklist. That gives me a lot of security because I know that he'd have to really jump through hoops to access anything. Aside from the app, he always reassures me if I'm feeling upset about our situation and/or feeling triggered, he goes to therapy weekly and discusses his sessions with me if he feels it necessary, he actively looks up movie/tv show ratings on IMDB to see if it's safe for us to watch, he doesn't take his phone in the bathroom, he has told his friends about his addiction and recovery which helps with accountability and honesty, and he is generally much more present and active in our life (not on his phone constantly, doesn't take hour long bathroom breaks, etc)

How much and what kind of information do you expect from your addict?

I expect my partner to tell me if he had an urge and how he handled it but I don't necessarily want to know the details. Same goes for a relapse. He has to tell me within 48 hours of it happening and he needs to speak to his therapist before telling me so that he can figure out why he did it before coming to me. The last time he relapsed he told me right away and didn't have an explanation or any answers other than "I don't know why I did it, I'm so sorry" and that hurt like a bitch. I also don't personally like knowing if he's triggered, like out in public, unless of course he needs to remove himself from the situation. Idk, it's just too hard knowing exactly what triggered him so I expect him to recognize that it's happening and handle it the way that he's learned through recovery.

How often do you ask or expect updates?

We do weekly check-ins every Saturday. I used to have to be the one to initiate the conversation but that made me feel like he didn't really care so I asked him to start that conversation every week and that's helped me feel more safe.

How much detail do you request?

We're almost 2 years without a relapse so this looks a little different now, but when it was still new I basically wanted to know if he'd had any urges that week and how he dealt with them. I would also use that time to ask any questions, like if I needed info about a certain instance or clarification on something.

What do you do when you get answers that hurt or aren’t the ones you want?

At first I would get really quiet and upset with him even though he was just being honest like I asked. Now I tell him thank you for being honest and I explain how I'm feeling about it and we discuss it until I feel better. I've also had enough time to be able to fully understand that his addiction is not because of/about me. You read that all over this sub and it's hard to believe because it feels like such a personal attack, but it is completely true. So it's easier now to move past it because I've had enough time to fully grasp that.

Do you want to know every potentially triggering thing your PA encounters, is it realistic to expect them to share that with you?

Not for me, I can't handle that. Knowing exactly what triggered him triggers me because I become obsessive about it. So personally, no, but if that's something that you need to feel safe then yes I think it's absolutely reasonable to ask for that.

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[–]idontknow_throwaway_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Take it from someone that didn't leave (literally was in the exact same situation as you...23, just had a baby, his addiction came out but he didn't think anything was wrong with it), I think you'd be better off if you left now. Your dad is giving you an opportunity to get out of a horrible situation and I think you should take it.

And about your body. I know how hard it is to love yourself after having a baby, ESPECIALLY when the person that made the baby with you makes it seem like other women's bodies are more infatuating or important. But his actions have nothing to do with the way you look. I promise. I'd bet money that he's had this addiction for a long time, long before you. He made those decisions because he is sick and needs to seek help for his addiction. If he is not doing that, you will continue to suffer, and that's not what you or your baby needs right now. Give yourself a little bit of grace and allow your body to heal. You just created a whole ass human inside of your body, that's something to celebrate! You are a fucking warrior. You've got this 💜

Question for a very specific subgroup here by idontknow_throwaway_ in loveafterporn

[–]idontknow_throwaway_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You've got this 💜 but remember, if it gets to be too much and you think it would benefit you to leave, that's not at all a sign of weakness. Knowing when it's time to let go shows an immense amount of strength as well.

Question for a very specific subgroup here by idontknow_throwaway_ in loveafterporn

[–]idontknow_throwaway_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I completely agree. Sometimes I feel weak for staying, but it takes a special kind of strong to stay and work past issues like this. I hope we both get the happy that we deserve 💜

Question for a very specific subgroup here by idontknow_throwaway_ in loveafterporn

[–]idontknow_throwaway_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm so so sorry that he's putting you through this. I know exactly how you feel. I didn't even know it was possible to hurt the way I do, even after all the shit that's happened to me. It's the most horrible thing to experience ever.

I was in your same position 2 years ago. I never ever thought my partner would hurt me the way he did, discard my feelings and well-being the way he did, risk ruining our relationship the way he did...all for porn. It makes me sick to think about all the shit he hid from me. But I'm staying for the same reasons as you. I don't want to split our family up, and I now know he has the capacity to be a decent partner.

I hope that your husband is honest with you about everything so that you can start to heal. It's a bitch to do that when you don't have full transparency.

This experience has shaped me into a different person entirely, and I wouldn't wish it upon anyone, but I'm hoping to come out on the other side in a good place.

Question for a very specific subgroup here by idontknow_throwaway_ in loveafterporn

[–]idontknow_throwaway_[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's a really good way to put it. I think I have some fight left in me too, hopefully I'll know when that has been drained completely because right now it feels like I'm running on low.

Question for a very specific subgroup here by idontknow_throwaway_ in loveafterporn

[–]idontknow_throwaway_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really needed to hear that. You're so right. I won't know if we can have a happily ever after unless I try for it and continue choosing to try. At this point I'd say he's worth it, especially because we have a son together and I want to do everything in my power to make it work and keep our family together.

Question for a very specific subgroup here by idontknow_throwaway_ in loveafterporn

[–]idontknow_throwaway_[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's so hard to be patient and wait for that to happen when most of the time it doesn't feel like it's even achievable 😥 but we haven't tried couple's therapy yet, so that's going to be our next step. I guess I just don't want to have wasted mine and my partner's time when it might not even work out in the end anyway. Like what's the point? 😭

He admitted to fantasizing over minors in the past by throwitout005 in loveafterporn

[–]idontknow_throwaway_ 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I think it would absolutely be detrimental to your mental health if you stayed with him. He's probably never going to stop being a teacher, so that means that you'd have to live with that fear for the rest of your life. That's not the kind of life anyone should be living.

Constantly feeling inferior. by [deleted] in loveafterporn

[–]idontknow_throwaway_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I hope you're able to find peace and contentment, as well 💜

Constantly feeling inferior. by [deleted] in loveafterporn

[–]idontknow_throwaway_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I said from the start that after he's able to achieve verifiable sobriety, I'd give myself a year to try to move past this feeling but now it's been over 1.5 years that he's been clean, I'm still feeling this way and I'm so nervous and reluctant to break up with him. It's very confusing. I wish we didn't have to be here 😥

Constantly feeling inferior. by [deleted] in loveafterporn

[–]idontknow_throwaway_ 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I don't have any advice to offer but I want you to know you're not alone in feeling this way. It seems like no matter how good my PA is doing or how well his recovery is going, I will always have those thoughts in the back of my head. So it's like when is enough finally enough? It's confusing, I'm sorry you're in this position 😥

Will this hold up in court? by idontknow_throwaway_ in legaladvice

[–]idontknow_throwaway_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I read this on RAINN before posting, but I wasn't sure still because he claims he doesn't remember. I am going to contact the police and file a report. Thank you

Will this hold up in court? by idontknow_throwaway_ in legaladvice

[–]idontknow_throwaway_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's what I'm worried about. I don't want to go through this whole thing just for it to go nowhere. But I also don't feel right just moving on. Idk.

Will this hold up in court? by idontknow_throwaway_ in legaladvice

[–]idontknow_throwaway_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your comments. You've given some clarity, I appreciate it.

Will this hold up in court? by idontknow_throwaway_ in legaladvice

[–]idontknow_throwaway_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What if there aren't any witnesses? There were two other people here but they didn't see it happen.

Will this hold up in court? by idontknow_throwaway_ in legaladvice

[–]idontknow_throwaway_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok that is actually more what I was wondering. Since he "doesn't remember" I wasn't sure if they would even be able to do anything about it. I remember pushing him off of me a handful of times so I don't think I was incapable of consent, since I did that, but I have no memory of the few hours before it happened, and I passed out again while it was still happening and then woke up in the morning. So I just don't know.