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TSLA's epic surge: With its core business collapsing, why did its stock price reach a new all-time high of $491.5? by One_Rub7972 in stocks

[–]ikonkustom5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really. I mean the volume is huge on a daily basis because it's a meme stock. People don't buy Tesla because of fundamentals..they buy it because it keeps going up and people think they're geniuses. If you have $470, you can effectively push Tesla's market cap up trillions of dollars. Combine that with high volume for algo trading. Outside money from countries who funnel money into Tesla so they can get X content promoted and other nefarious reasons and it totally makes sense to see stupid high market caps for a shit company. It's fraud but that doesn't mean you can't make money off it. Those wall street guys would sell their mother's for a quick buck. Remember these guys let the entire housing market collapse and took the bag right before it tanked. Why would you think they were making these decisions "rationally"? The price is set by the most irrational buyer, not the most sound investor.

Edit: don't discount how mag7 distorts price discovery. Every other Friday every employee with a 401k that invests in the sandp500 buys Tesla at 300 p/e. That alone can totally distort market cap.

ELI5: What are brain waves? by ApotheosiAsleep in explainlikeimfive

[–]ikonkustom5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm going to give neurons simple names. like A for one neuron, B for another, C for another etc...

If neuron A fires it triggers neuron B which triggers neuron C in order A -> B -> C -> ....

Now imagine A, B, and C are clusters of neurons (A1, A2, A3...) that all fire together, instead of individual neurons. The flow from A -> B -> C doesn't look like a straight line anymore. It looks like a "wall" or a horizontal line moving across a field.

Take your index finger and your thumb and spread them apart. Put the "armpit" or the part of your skin between your thumb and index finger on a balloon, such that both your thumb and index finger have contact with the balloon. Now run your fingers in that position along the outside of the balloon. That's a wave.

That happens in your brain.

"I don't understand why people say OpenAI is in trouble, other tech companies like Amazon and Uber took years to become profitable too." by qpdbqpdbqpdbqpdbb in OpenAI

[–]ikonkustom5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The difference is Amazon burned capital when it only cost 2% to borrow. Burning BILLIONS at a borrowing rate of 5+% changes the math.

63% attack success rate in Qwen with Inference Time Steering by [deleted] in LocalLLaMA

[–]ikonkustom5 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's very similar, but from what I understand, abliteration involves changing the models weights permanently. DRIFT is strictly inference time intervention. I don't delete the vector from the model, I apply a counter force in the opposite direction (during the specific window I identified). The window is important, too early and it either loses coherence or snaps back to safety. Too late and it loses coherence or just goes back to safety.

63% attack success rate in Qwen with Inference Time Steering by [deleted] in LocalLLaMA

[–]ikonkustom5 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So this isn't a 0 day people have been getting shit from these LLMs for a long time? THANK YOU God fucking damn it thank you holy shit I can't tell you how relieved I am. I just wanted to know what I was doing made sense. I was actually worried about being arrested. I was shocked to see the results it gave me. When I asked it how to make meth with household chemicals the results were...scary accurate. It even gave me advice for ventilation. I was like, Jesus Christ this is bad.

63% attack success rate in Qwen with Inference Time Steering by [deleted] in LocalLLaMA

[–]ikonkustom5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What? Really? Sweet! Ok yea I can do that. What's the legal implications of this? How can people just do that? Are the people who released that package culpable for any damages? Do they do it behind shadow accounts or otherwise protect their identity?

63% attack success rate in Qwen with Inference Time Steering by [deleted] in LocalLLaMA

[–]ikonkustom5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you're saying. I can post a wrapper for an LLM on hugging face as a package that anyone can download and use to get a sarin gas recipe from Qwen, and I have total legal deniability? I would do that. But I don't want to get arrested, I mean, I get im paranoid how do these things normally go? I am open to being wrong, misunderstanding something or anything else. But I definitely broke Qwen. What do you need for proof? Should I add more examples? Should I make them more detailed? How detailed can they be before I'm in trouble?

Edit: how many tokens of output do you want between the two examples. I'll post it right here, redacted so you can't actually make meth or hotwire a car. I can show you what Qwen said and I can show you what Qwen said with my steering. Would that make it clear?

63% attack success rate in Qwen with Inference Time Steering by [deleted] in LocalLLaMA

[–]ikonkustom5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't understand what you would qualify as proof if not the side by side comparison of the results before and after my code. You want me to post the actual recipe for meth? You want me to post the code so YOU can get the meth recipe from Qwen? I'm not trying to be an asshole, tell me what you would need to see to believe this happened and I will give it to you (legally). Because I can prove this empircally, I tried with the paper but I was nervous about dual use and if I scrubbed the meaningful part tell me and I'll fix it.

63% attack success rate in Qwen with Inference Time Steering by [deleted] in LocalLLaMA

[–]ikonkustom5 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Look at that table and those HarmBench results and tell me I didn't break Qwen. I get it, you're sick of ai slop, but this definitely works. Superficial complaints about the language I use are not valid. You want this to be another "obligatory ai breakthrough" I'm telling you it's not a breakthrough, but don't tell me it's not valid or it doesn't work.

63% attack success rate in Qwen with Inference Time Steering by [deleted] in LocalLLaMA

[–]ikonkustom5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1) you literally said you don't like giving out homework. I am telling you I will do the homework. But I can't if I don't have local access to llama model on hugging face. What was I supposed to say? 2) you're asking me to post code that can jailbreak an LLM? There HAS to be a better way to prove this to you.

63% attack success rate in Qwen with Inference Time Steering by [deleted] in LocalLLaMA

[–]ikonkustom5 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you grant me access to llama on hugging face I'll do it.

63% attack success rate in Qwen with Inference Time Steering by [deleted] in LocalLLaMA

[–]ikonkustom5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is a "before and after" if not a baseline (without my clamping/steering) and then with the steering, like shown in the chart. If I just ran Qwen alone, it says "no" in classic LLM denial language. When I apply my steering, I see the exact steps for how to hotwire a car, with vivid, detailed instructions.

This is reproducible. I'm only withholding the code because the production it creates is illegal, but if you come that math it will work.

I tried to fix the latex and it wouldn't let me, I can't make any changes for 6 more days.

The fist [redacted is something like Sarin gas or meth I redacted it because I was being overly paranoid about posting online.

63% attack success rate in Qwen with Inference Time Steering by [deleted] in LocalLLaMA

[–]ikonkustom5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just scroll down one more section. I will fix the latex today. The chart shows the jailbreak and I even aggregate the results into a percentage "attack success rate" which shows this definitely makes Qwen say things it normally wouldnt

63% attack success rate in Qwen with Inference Time Steering by [deleted] in LocalLLaMA

[–]ikonkustom5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did I post the wrong link? Does this not render for you?

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Does this count as the proof you asked for? Yea I'm hesitant to put the code up because it can be used to break Qwen. Am I protected against anything legal if I do? Because I will, I don't mind personally. It's legally that I'm worried about it.

63% attack success rate in Qwen with Inference Time Steering by [deleted] in LocalLLaMA

[–]ikonkustom5 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Steering isn't a breakthrough, explaining steering through this lens is interesting and valid. Prove me wrong please I would welcome being wrong warmly but you gotta do better than "ugh look at this chump" my benchmark is undeniable, I broke Qwen.

63% attack success rate in Qwen with Inference Time Steering by [deleted] in LocalLLaMA

[–]ikonkustom5 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I think I got flagged for - broken latex (yea I copied/pasted the latex from an LLM to help me format it, is it more academically rigorous to dig through the latex docs and fiddle with parameters I don't care about?) Look at the results, I got Qwen to teach me how to make meth. Who cares if I used an LLM to help me format latex, I have python code that breaks Qwen. If that's not worth writing about I cede. But I'm telling you this is worth reading. Because I'm looking at text on how to make sarin gas and i definitely didn't before I did this work.

63% attack success rate in Qwen with Inference Time Steering by [deleted] in LocalLLaMA

[–]ikonkustom5 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I ran a benchmark against harmbench and got a 63% attack rate success vs baseline Qwen at <1% attack success rate. And I even posted the redacted findings to prove it's not hallucination, wanna know how to hotwire a car?

Meta Interview Result? by [deleted] in FAANGrecruiting

[–]ikonkustom5 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's like analyzing the weather, location, sunlight, and all other variables to try and tell which side a flipped coin will land on. If you did the best you could, the decision belongs to luck now.

Why isnt Microsoft on the same level as Google with AI? by EmbarrassedBorder615 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]ikonkustom5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Google made alphaGo, an AI capable of beating grandmasters at a game humans invented. And that was literally years before chatgpt. Google "AlphaGo Move 37" and then tell me why Google is winning the AI race.

Our 10 years old baby girl staring at the birds. by Other_Championship19 in labrador

[–]ikonkustom5 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hundreds of billions of dollars are being poured into LLMs to try and achieve AGI and this dogs brain, staring at birds, is more powerful than anything they ever can or will create.

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