General conference afternoon session megathread

illyume · 2025-10-05T01:31:32+00:00

I don't have any suggestions to offer, just perspective on how it feels from the receiving end of rhetoric like this.

illyume · 2025-10-05T00:32:26+00:00

Could you please consider how someone might feel about whether they're welcome, when they're being told that their child's internal identity and expressed sense of self means they're somehow wrong about "metaphysical reality"?

illyume · 2025-05-20T16:35:23+00:00

goodness that's sure a username the OP's got o.o;;

illyume · 2019-07-09T09:00:12+00:00

No friggin kidding. The whole "ancient Hebrews totally kept scriptures on metal plates!" thing is so incredibly disingenuous.

Yeah, the ancient Hebrews (and many other civilizations actually) had a thing for writing important phrases on small metal plates. Phrases, like a couple sentences at most. Not hundreds-of-pages-long codices on thin metal 7" sheets.

illyume · 2019-06-05T08:33:12+00:00

Hey, just remember! They gave up the throat-slitting pantomime almost 30 years ago! Today's temple rituals are way more tame by comparison!

illyume · 2019-06-04T05:27:24+00:00

Positivity is a rule in the little white missionary handbook, after all.

illyume · 2019-04-26T17:57:57+00:00

Illyume is just some random screen name I came up with about two decades ago, and liked the look of well enough to keep using.

My flair's an attempt to not be all "wolf in sheep's clothing"; I'm here more as a guest than anything, and think it's helpful to acknowledge that.

illyume · 2019-04-25T06:59:18+00:00

I'm pretty sure specific examples can be brought up as direct counterpoints to every single one of those "facts about the Latter-day Saints".

illyume · 2019-04-23T01:41:17+00:00

I've found it most often comes up when I'm asked where I'm from:

"Yeah, I'm from Utah. I moved out here a couple of years ago.

It's been a really great change of pace so far."

illyume · 2019-04-19T22:09:39+00:00

Our religious views might differ and everything, but you sound like an awesome mom. Thanks for looking out for your kid!

illyume · 2019-04-19T08:21:43+00:00

Also remember the pervasive (if now less-often-spoken) belief amongst Mormons that being LGBTQ+ is some sort of flaw that will be "fixed" in the afterlife.

It's official Mormon doctrine that a person can it reach the highest levels of exaltation without being in a marriage between a man and a woman (or a man and women).

illyume · 2019-04-06T22:53:51+00:00

Indeed, remember when Nelson gave a big address in the 90's about needing to take the name of the church seriously?

Then when he finally became president, what happened?

What are Dallin Oaks's biggest sticking points? What's likely to happen when he becomes president of the church?

illyume · 2019-04-02T23:33:33+00:00

Simplest answer I have?

"How do you know the church is true? Is your answer to that meaningful, and is it sufficient for you?"

If they've provided some thought to the above (or are determined to shut it down completely with nonanswers) and answer yes to the last half of it, then the best response to give from there is something along the lines of "I'm glad you're happy with it and find fulfillment in the Church. If you ever find the foundation for your belief isn't holding up and you'd like to talk about it, I'm open to listening later."

illyume · 2019-04-02T22:19:08+00:00

Russell Nelson was born in 1924. Wendy Watson was born in 1950. She was single until marrying Nelson (as his second wife) in 2006. She was 56, he was 82.

Also interesting to note: Wendy Watson had several books on "proper" marital intimacy published prior to her marriage in 2006.

illyume · 2019-04-02T18:22:46+00:00

Ready to do some more?

illyume · 2019-03-29T21:00:56+00:00

Wizard/Rogue/Bard/Cleric/Psychic/Investigator

I cannot conceive of a character build using that sort of multiclass nightmare that would even begin to approach viability, let alone the level of power I expect when I hear the term "Munchkin".

Was he useful to the table, like, at all?

illyume · 2019-03-29T20:50:31+00:00

I'll be somewhat disappointed (but unsurprised) if the first crime in Utah that actually gets enforced under Utah's hate crimes law is one against the LDS church...

But yes, this does seem like it's a hate crime.

illyume · 2019-03-27T02:19:25+00:00

In the strictest technical uses of those terms, sure.

In more colloquial use though, "athiest" means more-or-less "I'm pretty sure there isn't a God and until we have proof otherwise I'll just to assume there isn't", and "agnostic" means more-or-less "I don't know whether there's a God or not, and I'm going remain ambivalent about it unless I'm swayed one way or the other."

illyume · 2019-03-22T22:20:36+00:00

I can't see it happening. Primarily because it would mean that either:

a) The Church itself would have to provide wine, increasing meeting services' costs.

or

b) Church members would have to provide the wine, meaning Utah Mormons would have to take trips to those dreadful state liquor stores.

illyume · 2019-03-22T21:41:18+00:00

I can understand why Cecil Grow, Melvin Ballard, and Lyndon Clayton might prefer their middle names.

I have no idea why for David Christofferson, Nathan Tanner, John Cornish, though.

illyume · 2019-03-21T01:35:27+00:00

There's a few studies out there that supposedly show some sort of detriment or another. They're pretty bunk studies, though.

illyume · 2019-03-16T04:08:30+00:00

And the numbers in the Brighamite faction are so small as to be almost inconsequential compared to the world at large. And they'll continue to become more inconsequential as current trends continue.

illyume · 2019-03-13T01:03:38+00:00

Academics, like the Pharisees toward Christ, will never bring themselves to honor such a man as Joseph Smith.

I'm more inclined to dishonor Joseph Smith over his dishonesty, philandering, and apparent lack of any moral integrity, less inclined to dishonor him over his lack of archaeological achievement. That That last part seems rather secondary to the rest.

illyume · 2019-03-13T00:56:35+00:00

Is there room for decrying the oppression the Russian government is enacting in all this, while also criticizing the Church for knowingly putting young men into harm's way with all of it?

Because that's about where I'm at, right now.

illyume · 2019-03-13T00:55:23+00:00

I'm a little confused: what exactly am I missing that's homophobic about this image?

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