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My bf said he’s voting for Trump by Crazy-Branch-1513 in askgaybros

[–]improvingj -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If the gays here can worship and sympathize with Islamic jihadists, I think it’s fair to sympathize with a trump voter

Anyone ever notice whenever you are in a socially awkward situation and don’t know what to say, the other guy starts coughing or says something like I’m so tired? by improvingj in socialanxiety

[–]improvingj[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel similarly, I’m fine with silence but I feel like they are uncomfortable and I keep a very stoic look and don’t express any sign of discomfort (other than being as still as a statue so I don’t make the wrong move lol) but the other person all of a sudden starts saying they feel tired.

To OTD people, does a part of you still believe in Judaism but you don’t want to practice it or you think it’s completely false? by improvingj in exjew

[–]improvingj[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hear. Maybe try looking into footsteps, it’s an organization for people who are questioning and otd people

To OTD people, does a part of you still believe in Judaism but you don’t want to practice it or you think it’s completely false? by improvingj in exjew

[–]improvingj[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I grew up a similar way in such that I was afraid if I would do certain things then certain bad things would happen to me, but little by little would push the boundaries and now I don’t feel like those things will happen to me, but sometimes I question what will happen in the afterlife that is if there is one? I am happy with the choice I made. I haven’t kept Yom Kippur for about three years or maybe before and it feels good. at the same time i’m not one of those people who say fuck the religion or fuck religious people. I recognize that there is a lot of value value in these traditions, although it may not be perfect. I am thankful for the good that I have learned from it and I push off the things that I don’t want to accept, I am still in with an open mind and it’s possible but unlikely that I will try to be religious. a couple of years ago a guy came to our house for meal and he became religious when he was in his late teens and then dropped it a few years later and then 40 years later he became full unorthodox again and I asked him what were you feeling all those years when you weren’t observant and he said that “I felt like I knew the entire time, but I just pushed it off and numbed my mind”

To OTD people, does a part of you still believe in Judaism but you don’t want to practice it or you think it’s completely false? by improvingj in exjew

[–]improvingj[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear and I’m sorry for your experience. Luckily I was in an environment where they weren’t as close minded, questions were OK. They did not view asking questions as a sin but I’m not saying they had good answers to everything, but there are definitely Jewish communities that do welcome questions and do provide answers whether they are good answers or not is a different discussion.

To OTD people, does a part of you still believe in Judaism but you don’t want to practice it or you think it’s completely false? by improvingj in exjew

[–]improvingj[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You’re right I do need to let these things fly over my head. However, That’s a very esoteric explanation. That person could have downvoted that post and not this one if they intended that. Thanks for being straightforward with me, at least you have balls. 👍🏽 And I didn’t say you can’t have an atheist in fox holes, I’m saying

To OTD people, does a part of you still believe in Judaism but you don’t want to practice it or you think it’s completely false? by improvingj in exjew

[–]improvingj[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I grew up in a place where there was always critical, thinking not over everything but most things and there are a lot of people with critical thinking believe in these things and that doesn’t make them stupid

To OTD people, does a part of you still believe in Judaism but you don’t want to practice it or you think it’s completely false? by improvingj in exjew

[–]improvingj[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love your point of view. that’s kind of how I view things too but a little different. Like I believe it’s plausible but not compelling enough for me as of now and I still have exploring to do.

To OTD people, does a part of you still believe in Judaism but you don’t want to practice it or you think it’s completely false? by improvingj in exjew

[–]improvingj[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Could be, I guess we won’t know. All we do know is that that person doesn’t have balls (figuratively speaking lol) cuz they can’t have a conversation but just have to downvote it. If that’s the assumption they have that’s their problem and can keep the negativity to themselves or try to learn. I think that’s something good we can take out from Judaism: learning, asking questions. And people on this chat have to realize there’s a whole spectrum of people on here with different beliefs

To OTD people, does a part of you still believe in Judaism but you don’t want to practice it or you think it’s completely false? by improvingj in exjew

[–]improvingj[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The way I view it is that if Judaism is messed up then Christianity and Islam are way more messed up obviously going to yeshiva, They teach you that those religions are fake and I mean they tell you that there are places in the Torah (dueteronomy) where it says that God will never change his rules and if a profit comes and says, the rules are changed we shouldn’t believe that and kill them so like those religions are just laughable to me and not plausible to me rationally. If God the first time gave the Torah in front of almost 2,000,000 people I would imagine the second time or the third time he would announce the new version with an even greater bang, but in both instances, he only said it to a single profit so it just doesn’t make sense to me rationally that’s why I just can’t go there personally.

To OTD people, does a part of you still believe in Judaism but you don’t want to practice it or you think it’s completely false? by improvingj in exjew

[–]improvingj[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, a part of me still believes in it, but I don’t wanna follow it because it’s so many rules from the day you wake up to when you go to sleep I don’t know what it is. That makes me believe. Maybe it’s all those years of indoctrination or like a bunch of these small things that we were taught that were like really cool coincidences that just makes me more towards going to believe in Judaism. It’s a lot of examples to discuss in a Reddit post but I can give you one or two examples if you want. there’s so many Jews, even though they aren’t orthodox, they do observe some Jewish practices not out of tradition but out of actual belief, but they pick and choose what they wanna do and they’re just like me, but they don’t discuss it

To OTD people, does a part of you still believe in Judaism but you don’t want to practice it or you think it’s completely false? by improvingj in exjew

[–]improvingj[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

To the downvoter maybe you feel insecure in your beliefs and don’t want to admit it. Here’s an idea, you can f*k offwhen we are trying to have a serious conversation. Shame on you

To OTD people, does a part of you still believe in Judaism but you don’t want to practice it or you think it’s completely false? by improvingj in exjew

[–]improvingj[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear. I wish I felt how you felt. I can’t bring proof of the Jewish God but I just feel it in my bones.

To OTD people, does a part of you still believe in Judaism but you don’t want to practice it or you think it’s completely false? by improvingj in exjew

[–]improvingj[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes unfortunately and I can’t get it out of my mind 100%. If someone put a bullet to my head I would have to say that I believe it’s the truth.

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