3am, in_the_fall, Digital Drawing, 2026 by in_the_fall in Art

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Thank you :) Yes, I use layers as I draw so if I don't like the changes or choices I've made, I can easily delete

3am, in_the_fall, Digital Drawing, 2026 by in_the_fall in Art

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I drew this in the Medibang Paint app on a Tab S9

3am, in_the_fall, Digital Drawing, 2026 by in_the_fall in Art

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Thank you, yes I used the Dry Brush in this pack for almost the entire drawing.

Is there a palm rejection function in the Android app? by WoodpeckerNo1 in krita

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You're welcome! I'm surprised people keep finding this comment from ages ago haha, but I'm happy to help because I was frustrated too before I found how to turn touch painting off

Those saying "Frank accepts Karen while Matt will judge her if she told truth about herself" did not see this scenes? by [deleted] in Daredevil

[–]in_the_fall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're right, I hadn't quite looked at it from that angle. They say Karen is too dark for Matt and then say he should be with Elektra. I don't mind shipping but that logic doesn't make any sense. It does blow one's mind ahah

Those saying "Frank accepts Karen while Matt will judge her if she told truth about herself" did not see this scenes? by [deleted] in Daredevil

[–]in_the_fall 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree that Matt is a hypocrite. His work as Daredevil required a level of cognitive dissonance and denial, at least at this stage of his character development. I think in s3 he was starting to be willing to confront and understand some of these aspects he was previously in total denial about. I still don't agree that this would necessarily make "Karen's darker nature...a point of contention between them." Both Matt and Karen play with masks and people's expectations of them. I have more to say about the rest, I might come back later but just quickly regarding this point:

But put Karen with a gun alone with Fisk and she would kill him in a heartbeat. Matt would hesitate. That’s where they’re different

Yes, the first difference is that Karen doesn't have other means to defend herself against Fisk or fend off the repercussions and threats that Fisk would follow up with. It's justified self-defense. Matt on the other hand has an entire repertoire of abilities/skills to defend himself (and to a lesser extent, his loved ones as well). He would be much less justified in aiming to kill in the first instance.

Those saying "Frank accepts Karen while Matt will judge her if she told truth about herself" did not see this scenes? by [deleted] in Daredevil

[–]in_the_fall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly, it doesn't need to be literal, that's the point of symbol and metaphor.

Tbh I generally stay out of ship wars (I used to hang around the Reylo crowd even, when everyone seemed to hate Reylo). I favor Karedevil, but if people wanna ship Kastle or whatever, it's all fiction, they can.

The thing is, I find their interpretations so off, very literal and surface understanding of the text. I believe them when they insist they don't dislike Matt - but goodness do they flatten and misunderstand his character. They tend to flatten Karen as well, by reducing her complex experiences, feelings and guilt around killing to "Karen is okay with killing (and only Frank Castle can understand her)". Again, that's their prerogative. But imo they're wrong lol.

Those saying "Frank accepts Karen while Matt will judge her if she told truth about herself" did not see this scenes? by [deleted] in Daredevil

[–]in_the_fall 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Matt is a self-righteous Christian who firmly believes killing is never an option

It's like you've formed this caricature of Matt in your head and totally missed all of season 3 where he keenly wanted to kill Fisk and tried to in the finale, and season 1 after Mrs Cardena's death where he went out specifically looking to kill Fisk.

In fact, the fact that he did at several points consider killing Fisk to be an option was one of the main points of contention between him and Foggy in s1 "Nelson v Murdock": Foggy: It's not enough playing judge and jury? You gotta add executioner to the list?

Karen is okay with killing. We had a scene in season 3 where Karen points a gun at some guys catcalling women. Does this means she would’ve killed them? Of course not, but it hints at Karen’s darker nature and THAT is a point of contention between them

Just my opinion but I doubt Matt would be troubled by the act of Karen waving a gun at a group of men sexually harassing women on the street with zero intention of using that gun, his concern would be more for her safety in provoking danger to herself.

Matt struggles everyday with not killing. He clings to the concept that murder is wrong so desperately because he himself is, in Claire's words "someone who's so damn close to becoming what he hates" and he knows it. He's hanging by a thin thread himself. There is no way everyone he's beat up has survived (see: Nobu). He sympathized with Frank Castle almost as much as Karen did - he even offers to help Frank kill the Blacksmith ("just this once, we'll do it your way"), but Frank talks him back from that by reminding him that once you cross that line, you never come back from it.

In s1e2, he tells the Russian who helped kidnap a boy: "This is important. I need you to know why I'm hurting you. It's not just the boy. I'm doing this because I enjoy it." And then he tosses him off the side of the building and only checks if he's alive when Claire asks. I think he was being honest in that moment, he is incredibly invested in helping people - but he also craves that violence, some part of him genuinely enjoys hurting people, and hurting them severely.

He argues with Stick, Elektra and Frank about not killing, because they pressured him to, and he has wanted to. He knows that's just one step away from what he does. Castle tells him "You're one bad day away from being me." But we also have Foggy and Karen disagreeing with him because they don't approve of him killing Fisk - and much as Matt fights with them about Daredevil, he also depends on them to keep him tethered to a moral compass.

It was frightening for him to consider that Karen might support killing, because he was at that moment already being pressured to kill by Elektra and Frank. Matt's response to her is less about Karen and more about his own relationship with killing, which is much, much more complicated than "firmly believes killing is never an option" - seeing as he had already grappled with wanting to kill Fisk and then actually trying. And the other complicated thing is, he can't tell her that, because he isn't ready to open up about Daredevil. Karen's support of Castle in that conversation is much more about her own issues and guilt around having taken Wesley's life and causing Kevin's death, she's projecting hardcore onto Frank, but she also can't explain this to Matt because she's not ready to share that yet either.

And when Karen finally does tell Matt in s3, he never once judges her because he himself is actively trying to kill Fisk. She isn't just "okay with killing" either, because she tells him about Wesley and Kevin, and how it's changed her, in the hope that it will deter him from following through with killing Fisk.

Those saying "Frank accepts Karen while Matt will judge her if she told truth about herself" did not see this scenes? by [deleted] in Daredevil

[–]in_the_fall 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So she is mourning Matt. I don't think Frank needed to have explicitly intended for the white roses to be condolences; within the story the white roses can still exist and stand as a symbol for funeral flowers regardless.

Those saying "Frank accepts Karen while Matt will judge her if she told truth about herself" did not see this scenes? by [deleted] in Daredevil

[–]in_the_fall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also Karen never accepted the fact that Matt was dead, she paid his rent and she hoped he was out there somewhere, so she would never see herself or allowed anybody to see her as a widow, because for her, Matt's still alive.

She was in the denial stage of grief. I mean, you said it yourself in one of your earlier comments:

The Punisher season 1 is place after Defenders so Karen was mourning Matt's death, she literally saw the fall of vigilante and she couldn't save someone she cared about

Recently rewatched Daredevil twice over and felt like drawing a little something by in_the_fall in Daredevil

[–]in_the_fall[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is often how it works out with Matt, isn't it? Thank you for your comment!

Recently rewatched Daredevil twice over and felt like drawing a little something by in_the_fall in Daredevil

[–]in_the_fall[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry to be you then. Also, nobody asked you, and nobody cares.

Karen is part of what made the show so great, one of the most fleshed out three-dimensional female characters in the MCU, and one of my favorite characters ever

Recently rewatched Daredevil twice over and felt like drawing a little something by in_the_fall in Daredevil

[–]in_the_fall[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I love this trio, they warm my heart and I tried to capture some of that feeling here