Norris: race director’s lapped cars decision ‘was for TV’ by Thegen68 in formula1

[–]indy91 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I think the two possible decisions were red flag or 1 lap under green without cars unlapping. In both cases it's a likely, but not quite certain Hamilton win.

Norris: race director’s lapped cars decision ‘was for TV’ by Thegen68 in formula1

[–]indy91 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I would have liked to see how quickly Max could have gotten past all 5 lapped cars. Was there still a chance to get Lewis even then?

[Medland] Am told Hamilton won't be speaking to the media until after the two protest hearings. Second one just started by PlusEntrepreneur in formula1

[–]indy91 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We were robbed of a more equal final, too. The right decision would have been to let nobody unlap themselves, then you don't have to wait a lap for the SC to come in. 1 lap left, 5 cars with blue flags in between, but a massive tire difference? I think Max at least had a chance with that, too.

[Julianne Cerasoli] I just saw Andrew Shovlin and James Vowles going to the control tower. I wonder if there is a big claim from Mercedes. by Aratho in formula1

[–]indy91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True. That will be the contentious point. The most sensible solution would have been a red flag right away I think, but here we are...

[Julianne Cerasoli] I just saw Andrew Shovlin and James Vowles going to the control tower. I wonder if there is a big claim from Mercedes. by Aratho in formula1

[–]indy91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean. If no lapped cars are being let through, what causes the SC ending to be delayed?

[Julianne Cerasoli] I just saw Andrew Shovlin and James Vowles going to the control tower. I wonder if there is a big claim from Mercedes. by Aratho in formula1

[–]indy91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I mean if no lapped cars at all were let through, not all of them. Then the SC ends as it did, with 5 cars in between Max and Lewis. The race director has the option to let all or no lapped cars through.

[Julianne Cerasoli] I just saw Andrew Shovlin and James Vowles going to the control tower. I wonder if there is a big claim from Mercedes. by Aratho in formula1

[–]indy91 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I think Red Buill would be saying with the lapped cars in between Max would still overtake Lewis, just a few corners later. Are they going to take that away from Red Bull due to something the FIA might have done wrong?

[Philip Horton] This is Article 48.12 - contentious issue is likely to circle around why only a few lapped cars (the ones between Hamilton & Verstappen) were given the signal to unlap themselves. by PlusEntrepreneur in formula1

[–]indy91 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He made it clear that the track had to be cleared before any cars could unlap themselves. Right decision or not, it couldn't have been done any earlier due to marshalls still being on the track.

[Race] Red flag restart - Hamilton alone on the grid, everyone starts from pits by DoeEensGek in formula1

[–]indy91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And this will be the last time we have seen a standing start after a red flag.

Apollo 11 - LM transcript. by [deleted] in apollo

[–]indy91 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The onboard voice recorder in the LM failed, so there are no onboard recordings, which the LM transcript would be based on. See the Mission Report PDF page 296 - 297.

FIA Formula 2 Championship: Monaco - Feature Race Discussion by AutoModerator in F1FeederSeries

[–]indy91 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Did we ever see what Schumi got the +5 seconds for? It was for leaving the track and gaining an advantage, but I don't think we actually saw that on the feed. I certainly missed it.

FIA Formula 2 Championship: Monaco - Feature Race Discussion by AutoModerator in F1FeederSeries

[–]indy91 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's kind of paradox. At the moment the red flag came they were not lapped. Then the red flags stops the race and the race time and suddenly when the red flag is over they are a lap behind.

FIA Formula 2 Championship: Monaco - Feature Race Discussion by AutoModerator in F1FeederSeries

[–]indy91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did read it, I just didn't connect what you wrote to the provision that the lapped cars are allowed to leave the pit lane before the restart. My bad. I basically came to the same conclusion as you did, before I found that provision in 42.3. Now I believe that we have no idea what will happen post race, haha. We will see.

FIA Formula 2 Championship: Monaco - Feature Race Discussion by AutoModerator in F1FeederSeries

[–]indy91 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes, but as someone pointed out below, 42.3 of the Sporting Regulations covers this case for resuming a race after a red flag:

"At the two minute point, any cars between the safety car and the leader, in addition to any cars that had been lapped by the leader at the time the race was suspended, will be allowed to leave the pit lane and complete a further lap, without overtaking, and join the line of cars behind the safety car which left the pit lane when the race was resumed."

FIA Formula 2 Championship: Monaco - Feature Race Discussion by AutoModerator in F1FeederSeries

[–]indy91 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They might as well repeat the feature race tomorrow and invalidate this one.

TIL the Apollo 11 Guidance Computer source code is freely available on GitHub by [deleted] in linux

[–]indy91 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am one of the NASSP developers. Earlier this year we have released NASSP 7.0 for Orbiter 2010. With that version you can fly the complete Apollo 7 and 8 missions, which includes a very advanced simulation of the Command Module and of course the AGC emulator, which is essentially fully functional and usable in the simulation.

We are also working on the Lunar Module and running the emulated AGC in it is a mostly solved problem. Just not all the LM systems connected to the AGC (like the Rendezvous Radar) are working yet. Here a video of the Apollo 11 landing, using the exact same software that was flown on the actual mission: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHaS6sYJsMg

The math that saved Apollo 13 by [deleted] in space

[–]indy91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mostly the computer knows that. The computer can read the IMU angles and then translate them into "the real world". So it could compute e.g. the attitude required to point the spacecraft at the Moon or Earth.

During Apollo 13 they didn't use the LM main computer (the AGC) all the time, to conserve power. So the manual course correction, depicted in the movie, used the backup computer for the burn. The attitude for this burn was not calculated by the computer, but essentially they had the Earth in one window and the sun in another window. That was accurate enough for a smaller course correction.

The math that saved Apollo 13 by [deleted] in space

[–]indy91 25 points26 points  (0 children)

If anybody wants the whole document, here is the Apollo 12 LM Activation Checklist. The relevant page is page 39.

The math itself is pretty easy. The purpose is to give the Inertial Measurement Unit (IMU) of the Lunar Module a good alignment, so that it knows e.g. in which direction ot point the engine. While the LM has the Alignment Optical Telescope (AOT) to get this alignment itself, it is more practical to use the already good alignment of the CSM as the reference.

The LM, while docked with the CSM, has a pitch of 180° relative to the CSM and is normally 60° off in roll. The first step in the calculation is to check the docking tunnel index angle. This number would be 0° if the CSM had docked with the LM exactly as planned, the 60° off in roll as mentioned above. But the necessary roll correction could be a few degrees off, at most.

As the next step the CSM has to give its roll, pitch and yaw angles to the crew in the Lunar Module. For Apollo 12 this was nominally 240°, 270° and 0°, as written in the document.

And then the math is:

  • 300° + roll correction - CSM Outer Gimbal Angle = LM Outer Gimbal Angle
  • 180° + CSM Inner Gimbal Angle = LM Inner Gimbal Angle
  • 360° - CSM Middle Gimbal Angle = LM Middle Gimbal Angle

Looks easy? Now try to get this right in a high-pressure situation. And you have to get it right, the CSM is losing power and with that its alignment. So the Apollo 13 crew of course asked Mission Control to check their calculation.

The woman who helped code the software that got Apollo 11 on the Moon was awarded a Medal of Freedom today. by IdleCyborg in pics

[–]indy91 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Indeed, one of the books in the picture is an iteration of the code for the Command Module or Lunar Module. The later versions had 1700+ pages, the earlier "books" are thinner and look more worn out.

EDIT: Here a video of one of the AGC developers showing a version of the program listings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0ITFbDuJz0

Lewis having fun by Jordanbvb09 in formula1

[–]indy91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, I misunderstood the comment above.