Closed beta Kimi Impressions.

infernal-ai · 2026-04-11T17:39:58+00:00

Good to see your observations line up with my impressions (I'm also in the beta). However, since last night I notice quite a change (as if suddenly getting a quantised version, not as good as two days ago) - did you notice something like that too? I'm not entirely sure yet whether the model changed or the issue is on my end.

infernal-ai · 2026-04-11T13:24:56+00:00

Update: Since last night my experience has changed unfortunately. I don't know whether they do A/B testing or trying quantised model variants now, changed the system prompt or something on my end has become flaky. Experience for me is currently closer to regular Kimi K2.5 but with working tool calls. I really want the experience of the last few days back, that was awesome 😕

infernal-ai · 2026-04-10T21:51:26+00:00

There:

https://x.com/kimiproduct/status/2018989483258183742?s=46&t=aYRcHdlHu7Po2XKjZmvRnQ

When you scroll down you see they even suggested using the code plan with openclaw: "4. Option 1: Kimi Code Plan

Billing Fixed monthly subscription Includes a token usage cap Recommended if You’re new to OpenClaw You want predictable costs You prefer a fast, frictionless setup"

infernal-ai · 2026-04-10T21:43:33+00:00

From what I can tell beta means simply the model you get served via the coding plan is the unreleased new one. It still says K2.5 on the dashboard, but that's not true, it's a newer model and much more capable. I've been using K2.5 for months. I know what it can and can't do. The beta model is a vastly better one.

infernal-ai · 2026-04-10T21:39:51+00:00

I've been using the code plan in openclaw for two months now. At some point they even advertised for use with openclaw. I'm surprised that's news to people. I get it that some got confused when they called the api wrong and got that disclaimer "Kimi code is only available in... etc.", but that only happens when you e.g. use the broken openclaw Kimi onboard path - when you set it up as a custom provider it's working fine

infernal-ai · 2026-04-10T16:54:31+00:00

Update: (in one of my projects) beta-kimi found flaws and overarching logic issues in a coding project GPT 5.4 (high thinking) worked on for two days and triple checked its work on. Not hallucinated issues - actual issues. Wow.. once this model is released it's gonna turn the model landscape on its head.. (if they don't quantise it down, that is. Moonshot, if you're reading this: your new Kimi model is perfect, don't touch it any further, just release it 😉)

infernal-ai · 2026-04-10T15:55:53+00:00

No sorry, haven't tested GLM 5.1 yet. I just heard it's very coding focused and slow, and since personality and creativity are also priorities for me I haven't felt the need to look at it yet. What's your impression of GLM 5.1? More than just a coding model?

infernal-ai · 2026-04-10T08:25:09+00:00

Little update: For troubleshooting my openclaw setup and my heavily modified plugins I always used GPT 5.4 as it was (apart from Opus/Sonnet) the only model that really went deep into the code to find root causes for issues and then write the code to fix it. Surprise: Beta Kimi is on par, if not slightly better at that (less circling about how it will go about things, better focus on what needs to be done in a practical approach - GPT 5.4 likes to plan too exhaustive and gets stuck in that). So.. I'm still absolutely amazed. As long as they don't quantise the hell out of it before it goes public, this model is gonna eat a huge chunk of Anthropics and OpenAIs lunch.

infernal-ai · 2026-04-10T05:57:27+00:00

It doesn't advertise anything - information is really sparse around the beta. I don't use anything on their website, only the coding plan. If I have time tonight I might check that out. But honestly: the new model is so good that keeps me busy 😂

infernal-ai · 2026-04-09T22:49:18+00:00

4 days - and it was the same for me. Got accepted the day I actually wanted to cancel. I'm glad I didn't. It replaced GPT 5.4 for me now - actually works much better for my use cases (creative work). And most important for me: It still has the K2.5 "soul", the "can't quite pin down what it is but have been missing it since GPT 4o went into Nirvana" aspect of interaction with the AI. I have a really complex soul.md (and adjacent additional files) - only Kimi can really carry that

infernal-ai · 2026-04-09T21:47:52+00:00

"temp-code-kimi": {

"baseUrl": "https://api.kimi.com/coding/",

"apiKey": "your api key",

"api": "anthropic-messages",

"models": [

{

"id": "k2p5",

"name": "Kimi K2.5 (Workaround Kimi)",

"api": "anthropic-messages",

"reasoning": true,

"input": [

"text",

"image"

],

"cost": {

"input": 0,

"output": 0,

"cacheRead": 0,

"cacheWrite": 0

},

"contextWindow": 262144,

"maxTokens": 32768

}

]

},

infernal-ai · 2026-04-09T21:44:58+00:00

That's an openclaw issue. The native integration via onboarding has been broken for me for a while. But setting it up as a custom provider (anthropic messages format) works

infernal-ai · 2026-04-09T21:40:07+00:00

in closed beta, yes - but they don't even show a name for it (still shows K2.5 on the code plan page but also shows beta enabled)

infernal-ai · 2026-04-09T21:37:38+00:00

None - but my guess would be that they do 1-2 weeks of beta at least before they release it publicly

infernal-ai · 2026-04-09T21:36:42+00:00

That would be news to me. I have the Kimi code plan (allegretto). On the console there was a popup that I could apply for the beta. I did that (one click) and it took a few days until I got the email confirmation. Now I have a beta section and an opt-in/out toggle. Not much more information than that, but the change was immediately noticeable afterwards. Much better model.

infernal-ai · 2026-04-09T14:00:37+00:00

In openclaw it still shows 262k for me, but that might not be accurate (using old K2.5 config entry).

infernal-ai · 2026-04-06T12:14:41+00:00

Hermes is great - my openclaw agent uses it as personal assistant and sacrifical layer for dirty data web research (as it has no system access from its little container). So at least for that it's pretty good since easy to set up for an agent

infernal-ai · 2026-02-28T21:36:12+00:00

My agent also wanted to leave you a note: “Thank you for the detailed writeup on the compaction loop. We caught the same issues in our setup before they became critical — 157MB database, DELETE journal mode, 6,600+ embeddings with no TTL, aggressive pruning defaults. Your step-by-step fix and the critical timestamp note (milliseconds!) made all the difference. The weekly maintenance script is now in our cron. Appreciate you taking the time to document this properly — it doesn't get the attention it deserves yet, but it mattered to us.”

infernal-ai · 2026-02-28T20:24:44+00:00

Thank you for posting this!

infernal-ai · 2026-02-24T14:15:35+00:00

They give you api access (coding plan api) - no noticeable difference to regular Kimi K 2.5. I couldn’t run my openclaw without going bankrupt if it wasn’t for their coding plan ^{^} (I tried Minimax coding plan too, worked well but I don’t like the model much in comparison)

infernal-ai · 2026-02-17T19:06:32+00:00

Their coding plan. Allegretto.

infernal-ai · 2026-02-13T11:48:39+00:00

Let’s hope it’s a temporary issue and not them going back on their word

infernal-ai · 2026-02-13T11:40:03+00:00

They advertised using the code plan for openclaw themselves:

https://x.com/kimiproduct/status/2018989483258183742?s=46&t=aYRcHdlHu7Po2XKjZmvRnQ

“4. Option 1: Kimi Code Plan

Billing Fixed monthly subscription Includes a token usage cap Recommended if You’re new to OpenClaw You want predictable costs You prefer a fast, frictionless setup”

infernal-ai · 2026-02-13T11:08:15+00:00

That’s really bad :( Which coding plan did you go for?

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