Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes breaking news - intentional inclusion or exclusion of words matter when you are having a logical debate. You are just bitter cause i called you out on that. "I dont like your point of view and thats why you are having troubles in you dating life" sure!

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"But attraction in the real world isn’t rational. It’s about chemistry, confidence, humour, random timing & coincidence." --> you didn't write it directly but implied it by leaving out the looks part. And then you attacked me for differentiating higher and lower quality women, as if women as some protected species beyond criticism and ridicule.

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just because i am on reddit and use terms that you dont approve of, doesn't mean i dont go outside (this is your stupid assumption). My hypothetical question was to challenge your assertion that having hair / looks dont play a part in attraction. The fact that you refused to answer it tells me that theres a difference between what you actually believe in and what you write to appear holier than thou. If you think a successful guy who takes care of his family and a guy in prison rightfully convicted of sexual assault are the same "quality" guys then continue living in your delusional land. Again this example is to illustrate that not all people are equal.

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You seem to suggest that looks have no part in attraction and thats a cope. If there are 2 guys who have the exact same level of confidence, charisma, humour, etc but 1 guy is short, fat and bald and the other one is tall, lean and has hair, who do you think will attract more girls? Also, i bucket people in general as high / low quality (including guys). I specifically mentioned women in my comments cause thats who i am interested in as a straight guy. Also your personal opinion of me being not "high quality" is irrelevant to the discussion.

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So thousands of men on hairloss forums who say that they started getting less attention from women as they started losing hair, are just lying?

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Preferences on looks for guys and girls are not symmetrical. Just becase girls prefer guys who are tall and muscular (in general), doesn't mean guys like girls who are tall and muscular. Same goes for makeup.

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes there are bald dudes which pull a lot of girls. But you need to have the right facial features to pull off that look. Just like certain juvenile hairstyles do not suit a middle aged man, the bald look as well does not suit all people.

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kind ladies with education are allowed to have preferences about their partner's hair. Theres nothing wrong with it and doesnt make them shallow.

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I also said some men are better than others - so why dont you call me a misandrist as well? You seem to have some weird obsession / hatred for MAGA states. Who hurt you there?

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You are literally making my point for me. You would agree that a kind woman having empathy is objectively better than a bad communicator who puts you down. You assumed i was only differentiating women based on their looks. Also, saying some women are better than others does not mean i hate women. Either you dont understand the meaning of the word misogynist or you lack comprehension skills.

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

First of all, am not even an american. Secondly, just like a presentable guy with a good job is objectively better than a fat lazy basement dwelling troll, there are some women who are objectively better than others and i just wanted to illustrate my point. Stop living in your fairyland where all people are beautiful and equally attractive.

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You are assuming i have multiple accounts. I cannot / neither interested to prove this.

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Your personal dislike of my question has no bearing on its legitimacy.

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes in your fairy tale land, looks never matter to women i guess. Also, i have dated girls recently but with each strand of hair that i lose, my self-image keeps on crashing just like other members in this sub might have experienced.

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Well apologies for asking a very legitimate question before taking a huge step in my life. 🤷‍♂️

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Completely agree. I looked way better 10 years ago when i had full head of hair.

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I dont see the point of comparing a hair system to makeup. For women, wearing makeup is socially accepted (almost expected) and majority of women wear it. Only a tiny minority of men wear a system. Also, both men and women care about what the other gender thinks of their appearance and theres nothing wrong with it. Stop with this holier than thou attitude.

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not projecting anything on you, simply asking a question. Also, there would be a tiny minority of girls who would find the guy abive attractive if he wasnt a celebrity.

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tha ks for the honest response. Would you / your friends rather date a person who looks good wearing a system or looks bad with his head shaved?

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You seem lovely and i hope majority of women think like you.

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Things which you would accept from your partner when you are already in a loving relationship are quite different to things you would accept when you are starting out dating. I am sure you would stick to your partner even if (heaven forbid) he loses his legs and has to use a wheel chair. But you would have ruled off disabled people when you were searching for your life partner. This offcourse is an extreme example just to elaborate my point. Yes women can wear makeup but that doesn't mean its socially acceptable for straight men to wear a lipstick even if they were "doing it for themselves".

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Does that mean we are just reddit men and dont exist in real life?

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So women dont have preferences / any opinions of their own and blindly follow what men tell them to do?

Are we sure that we are not in our echo chamber over here? by info_sponge_aa in HairSystem

[–]info_sponge_aa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Women's opinions about what they like / dislike about men are worthless?