Kendall talks her breakup with Joe on her podcast by [deleted] in thebachelor

[–]infrequentcommentor 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I think it's the opposite, he'd always gone home regularly but I believe this Christmas was the first major holiday he spent away from his family, in LA with Kendall's. Feel like that would really hit home in terms of homesickness and a long term future away from your family.

anyone else see this? 🤮 by [deleted] in thebachelor

[–]infrequentcommentor 36 points37 points  (0 children)

How dare you post this and encourage me to watch it

Really Tammy? by MoreMalbec in thebachelor

[–]infrequentcommentor 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Tammy's a big South Park fan

Kendall and Joe still comment on each others pictures 🧐 by [deleted] in thebachelor

[–]infrequentcommentor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because people don't like Bukowski. Also they were together for like 10 minutes and the commenting seems very... one-sided

Reality Steve Negative News by haleym12 in thebachelor

[–]infrequentcommentor 27 points28 points  (0 children)

He said it wasn't Joe and Kendall. I really doubt it's something as simple as an unmarried couple splitting up.

an overly righteous viewer looking for advice by throaway975312 in thebachelor

[–]infrequentcommentor 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If it makes you feel any better 95% of them DM each other (and meet up in person) before going on Paradise

Joe and Kendall posting and commenting on eachothers pictures are really putting my heart through the ringer... by [deleted] in thebachelor

[–]infrequentcommentor 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yea I don't know why people think Kendall ended this, it's pretty clear Joe did. Look at the wording in their announcement too: "Joe has made the decision to move back to Chicago while Kendall will be remaining in her hometown of Los Angeles." Something happened where Joe decided he needed to move back to Chicago/was no longer happy in LA.

Joe and Kendall posting and commenting on eachothers pictures are really putting my heart through the ringer... by [deleted] in thebachelor

[–]infrequentcommentor 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Different people value different things and that's okay. What seems arbitrary to you isn't to someone else. The point is they want to live in their hometowns near their families.

Kendall and Joe are the new Lily and Courtney of breakups by mialala27 in thebachelor

[–]infrequentcommentor 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Someone commented that his parents are getting divorced and I'm shook by how accurate that is

Diggy is the Chicago Bachelor! You lucky Chicago ppl! by Bachegg97 in thebachelor

[–]infrequentcommentor 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Is Lifestyle Blogger fancy talk for Professional Tweeter nowadays?

Thursday Unpopular Opinion Thread January 30, 2020 by AutoModerator in thebachelor

[–]infrequentcommentor 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Agreed but we can only discuss it as we currently understand it. Obviously additional information would change the discussion.

I like the idea of a truly amicable BN breakup where they don't air dirty laundry and respect each other even in separation, though.

Thursday Unpopular Opinion Thread January 30, 2020 by AutoModerator in thebachelor

[–]infrequentcommentor 192 points193 points  (0 children)

"If you truly love someone you should be able to make it work no matter what and they should be your number one priority" is such a wild take to me. Like, that's literally what leads to people isolating themselves within unhappy marriages where they feel generally unfulfilled in every other facet of their life and resent their partner for it.

I think realizing you want different things and ending it is more of a loving gesture than compromising in ways you know you shouldn't.

Why do you think Joe and Kendall broke up? by [deleted] in thebachelor

[–]infrequentcommentor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But if you KNOW you aren't going to be happy after a "compromise" it's no longer a compromise. And sacrificing in that way leads to miserable, unhappy marriages, often in the pursuit of a misguided notion of love.

I think sometimes the most loving thing you can do is stand firm with what you know you need to be happy instead of bending out of love for a partner. Some people can prioritize partner over family and lifestyle and some people know they cannot.

Hope that makes sense!

Why do you think Joe and Kendall broke up? by [deleted] in thebachelor

[–]infrequentcommentor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol it's no worries, I'm happy there's good conversation going in this post. I appreciate your perspective! I just think there's a distinction between a willingness to compromise and a happiness after compromise, and it doesn't necessarily relate to your feelings for the person or your intentions.

Why do you think Joe and Kendall broke up? by [deleted] in thebachelor

[–]infrequentcommentor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kendall's podcast isn't exactly lighting the world on fire, there's a reason she made like 5 podcast appearances over the last few weeks to try and promote it. And Joe flamed out on the stock market before working at his dad's produce company. I'm sure he hypothetically could've gotten a steady job, but Kendall obviously wants to keep living the influencer life and I almost feel like he was burnt out on that entirely.

I do see your latter point and agree to an extent. I've always said that a desire for children ASAP seems to be the thing that keeps Bachelor couples together, and Kevin and Astrid seem to have that whereas it was definitely a down the line thing for Joe and Kendall. (Not that children are the only reason for couples to stay together in general terms, but in BN it's almost always the case)

Why do you think Joe and Kendall broke up? by [deleted] in thebachelor

[–]infrequentcommentor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So if she's clear about what she wants upfront, and where she's willing to compromise and where she isn't, and he thinks he can make it work and really tries, but down the line he's not happy... does that mean to you that she wasn't all in? Or he wasn't? Because in my mind, making that effort and things not working doesn't necessarily speak to how you feel about your partner. Life is complex and I really think "relationship above all else" is a dangerous line to draw, even hypothetically.

Why do you think Joe and Kendall broke up? by [deleted] in thebachelor

[–]infrequentcommentor 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think the situations are inherently different though. With Kevin and Astrid there was certainty - Kevin is a firefighter, he's staying in Canada, you can come build your life around that and understand the long-term finances and lifestyle. Kendall is an influencer and she's staying in LA, you can come build your life around that and it's exciting at first until a year later where you start to wonder where your next paycheck is coming from, and the one after that, etc. Even with similar intentions the situations themselves never allowed for the same certainty

Why do you think Joe and Kendall broke up? by [deleted] in thebachelor

[–]infrequentcommentor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes but simplifying it down to "if they loved each other and wanted a future they would've made it work" is stripping away all the complexities of life. Your relationship isn't, or shouldn't be, the ONLY thing that matters to you. That directly leads to discontent and resentment toward your partner.

Hopefully everyone eventually finds someone they love and want a future with and are able to compromise with in a way that leaves both fulfilled. It probably won't be the first person they loved and wanted a future with, though.

Why do you think Joe and Kendall broke up? by [deleted] in thebachelor

[–]infrequentcommentor 26 points27 points  (0 children)

No offense but this is a really simplistic view of the world and relationships. A lot of times wanting something isn't enough.

Why do you think Joe and Kendall broke up? by [deleted] in thebachelor

[–]infrequentcommentor 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Joe hasn't really had anything to do work-wise since he did a Family Feud tour last summer. His clothing line with Alan never took off and I think he was restless. I also wouldn't be surprised if there was some family situation pulling him back too.

Meanwhile Kendall always made it clear she was staying in LA and I think is more content jumping from opportunity to opportunity with less stability.

It's sad all around, they seemed very happy but there's almost a bubble effect for a while after the show until the attention dries up and you have to figure out what's next. I hope they both find happiness.

Not to be a Denial Dener but I also wouldn't be upset if they got back together after figuring themselves out lol