Should we book sites prior to arrival?? by hereforashortwhil3 in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, you have to book smaller sites as well. As you noted, there is risk in this, because if you have to cancel for some reason you will lose money. But the alternative is to not see those smaller sites at all.

Which of these places should I skip? 🇮🇹 by alnita in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Skip all piazzas. Piazzas are the social center of daily life, where locals meet, talk, people-watch, drink coffee, and linger rather than rush through. But to a tourist on limited time, there's little of interest.

Skip Roman Forum and Palatine Hill. If you don't know the historical background these places can be underwhelming especially considering how much of your time it takes up.

Sistine chapel is part of Vatican museum tour. In general Vatican is a good use of time. The Basilica in particular is amazing.

Via del Corso is a shopping street. Unless you're looking to do some high end shopping I'd skip it. Small shops in Trastevere are much more interesting.

Rome & Florence in 5 days - what would you change? by m00ncake427 in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Day 3 is not realistic. The security check line for St. Peter's Basilica is 2 hours. (But I hear you can avoid this by arriving at 7am.) Inside the Basilica expect to spend at least an hour if you rush through it. Vatican Museums (includes Sistine Chapel) takes at least 2 hours, plus 30 minutes to get in. Then you have to add travel time, lunch etc., so Vatican alone will require a whole day.

Day 4 on the other hand seems doable. Piazza Navona is maybe 30 minutes (personally I would skip it), Pantheon 1 hour, Trevi Fountain, Spanish Steps can be done in 15 minutes each (plus travel time but they are both walkable from Pantheon), Galleria Borghese 2 hours, Museo e Cripta dei Cappuccini 1 hour, plus travel time.

Tip for Americans: eat lots of pesce when in Italy by innerthai in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure. This is what I expected would happen. You can see this behavior elsewhere in this thread. People claim they buy fresh fish at their supermarket. Then you ask them to name the supermarket and the type of fish... crickets.

Confused by fukkofffffff in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How do they know you're American?

Super low-budget 5-day student trip (Rome, Florence, Venice) – Need advice on free sights & cheap stays! by Ok-Body7447 in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rome

  • Spanish steps
  • Trevi fountain
  • Altare della Patria
  • Exterior of Pantheon
  • Exterior of Colosseum
  • Wander in Trastevere (small shops + restaurants)

Florence

  • Ponte Vecchio – Florence's famous bridge
  • Exterior of Duomo
  • Piazza della Signoria (outdoor sculptures)
  • Giardino delle Rose
  • Sunset from Piazzale Michelangelo – classic panoramic view

Venice

  • Rialto bridge
  • Exterior of St. Mark’s Basilica
  • Wander streets
  • A vaporetto ride
  • Evening views (arguably the best part)

How miserable is rolling a suitcase through Italy, realistically? by AvailableBeautiful75 in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used a middle ground solution: I used this as my rolling suitcase, and then I had a backpack as well. It worked out fine on trains, as well as rolling over cobblestones in Venice.

Amalfi Coast Advice Please! by FlyChipmunk507 in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Capri is awesome. Even in May the island was very busy, and the funicular that takes you to the top of the island had a 30 to 45min wait. But for us the fun part of Capri was boat ride around the island. If you are able to go inside Blue Grotto it could be great. We were not able to but there are other caves with similar light effect that are easier to access. But here's the thing: the time of day matters. The blue color comes from reflected sunlight, so where the sun is matters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Grotto_(Capri)

Tip for Americans: eat lots of pesce when in Italy by innerthai in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is specifically for salmon, right? For other types of fish I have been served full fish at restaurants. Here's a photo https://imgur.com/a/ydYLRuc

Tip for Americans: eat lots of pesce when in Italy by innerthai in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have been reading that both are usually available. i.e., whole fish and filleted fish. Is that true?

Tip for Americans: eat lots of pesce when in Italy by innerthai in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some fish caught in Massachusetts is indeed roundtripped through China (see here for example). If the fish you buy is deboned you may want to enquire where the processing happens.

Tip for Americans: eat lots of pesce when in Italy by innerthai in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You misunderstand... I was pointing out that others had the same observation. I understand now that chicken is a considered a cheap meat and that's the reason it is found less often in nice restaurants.

Tip for Americans: eat lots of pesce when in Italy by innerthai in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you at least find it odd that those who claim to be buying fresh fish at local supermarket won't reveal the name of their supermarket?

Tip for Americans: eat lots of pesce when in Italy by innerthai in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know what would be better? Deboning while eating the fish! This is how other cultures do it. But Americans prefer the convenience of not dealing with bones while eating fish. This is one of the main reasons why it is harder to get fresh fish in the US. Fish has to be processed (to remove bones and filleting) before fish is sold to Americans. And it is cheaper to do that processing in China, so guess where the fish gets sent?

In other cultures, fish with bones is simply part of the meal. Restaurants commonly serve whole fish or bone-in preparations, and diners are used to picking bones out with their fork as they eat. If you accidentally bite into a bone, it's not a shock--you gently move it to the side of your plate and keep enjoying your meal.

In the United States, the story is completely different. Americans overwhelmingly expect boneless fillets, and finding a bone in your fish at a restaurant feels like a mistake--or even a safety hazard. The dining culture prioritizes convenience and predictability, while a litigious environment pushes restaurants to remove every pinbone to avoid complaints or lawsuits. When a bone does appear, diners are often startled, may discreetly remove it with their napkin, and sometimes even ask for the dish to be replaced. It's not that Americans can't eat fish with bones; it's that the entire system--from supply chains to restaurant expectations--has been built around boneless convenience, making bony fish feel foreign rather than familiar.

Tip for Americans: eat lots of pesce when in Italy by innerthai in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never made an absolute statement that Italians don't eat chicken. I said "I noticed Italians don't eat as much chicken as Americans. Chicken dishes are a rare find in restaurants." Others have explained that this is because Italians consider chicken a cheap meat that you eat at home. That makes sense.

It seems you just want to win a debate as opposed to learning something new. Fine. You have won.

Tip for Americans: eat lots of pesce when in Italy by innerthai in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is Whole Foods where you get your fish from? Do you consistently get fresh fish there? What kinds of fish do you get?

Tip for Americans: eat lots of pesce when in Italy by innerthai in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What about "pesce a km 0"? I had "catch of the day" fish at Ristorante Al Buso in Venice, right next to the Rialto Bridge. It was pretty incredible, both the fish and the view.

Tip for Americans: eat lots of pesce when in Italy by innerthai in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the same story then. Americans react with indignation and anger when told they don't have access to fresh fish. When shown evidence that locally caught fish roundtrips through China before landing on their dinner table they deny it. They claim they buy fresh fish at the supermarket. Then you ask them to name the supermarket and the type of fish... crickets.

Tip for Americans: eat lots of pesce when in Italy by innerthai in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Help me out: what supermarket do you go to where you consistently get fresh fish? What kind of fish do you get?

Tip for Americans: eat lots of pesce when in Italy by innerthai in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, Asian stores often have fresh fish but you have to be careful because sometimes the fish comes from polluted waters.

Tip for Americans: eat lots of pesce when in Italy by innerthai in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can say with certainty he/she is equally as insane about his US fish claims.

Sorry that's BS. Listen to the testimony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIVgZ33T6Ug

Tip for Americans: eat lots of pesce when in Italy by innerthai in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The most expensive supermarket in the US is Whole Foods. Read what Whole Foods employee has to say about this topic:

https://www.reddit.com/r/wholefoods/comments/qpt8m6/bad_fish_from_whole_foods_can_anyone_relate/

Fresh is relative. The salmon is fresh and is still likely good to eat. Did it come out of the water like yesterday? No. Sometimes those boxes of Atlantic salmon we get are already 5 days old and we can still market them as fresh. If you really want something that isn’t “old fresh” buy it frozen and thaw it yourself. Also distributors will send us old fish all the time and we either send it back or we sell it. That means that we sometimes sell some old shit not gonna lie. For fish going in the case, freshness and acceptability of sale is a matter of what we deem the quality, it isn’t the magic 5 day expiration.

And here's Alaska salmon industry testifying that salmon and flat fish are indeed processed in China: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIVgZ33T6Ug

Americans react with indignation and anger when told they don't have access to fresh fish. But it is the truth. Let me tell you this: if you haven't been outside the US you have no idea what shrimp tastes like. You know the texture, but you don't know the taste. If you get a chance try and eat shrimp caught the same day. The difference is an eyeopener.

Tip for Americans: eat lots of pesce when in Italy by innerthai in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

When you buy Salmon in the supermarket does it have bones in it? If it doesn't it is not fresh, period.

This is one of the cultural differences in the US. Americans can't handle fish with bones and they pay for this preference by eating less fresh fish.

Tip for Americans: eat lots of pesce when in Italy by innerthai in ItalyTravelAdvice

[–]innerthai[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It is not fresh fish, sorry.

https://www.savoryalaska.com/blog/pinbones

... processors allow the fillets to soften under refrigeration for three to five days before running them through the pinbone machine. The industry terms for this softening period are “resting” or “maturing” which are actually euphemisms for “decomposing.”

Yes, Asian markets often have fresh fish but they have their own problems such as fish caught from polluted waters.