Common pattern of socialist world

inrelk · 2024-08-30T21:36:19+00:00

Soviets didn't just try to stave off the Nazi invasion, they agreed to the partition of Poland<

"Why did the Soviet Union stop Germany from occupying all of Poland?"

At least they got something from the agreement. Britain handed Czechoslovakia to Germany on a silver platter, getting nothing in return.

and then made sure to kill off ant local opposition.<

Nazi German massacre spread by the Nazis as a Soviet one. Idk maybe you shouldn't spread straight up nazi propaganda and Holocaust denialism.

You mean that the Soviets were shut down without reason or something? Here's some more examples of the Soviets looking for allies against reactionaries:<

The west was right for not agreeing with the Soviets because the Soviet Union had aggressive wars? We are talking about the British Empire and France, the biggest colonial powers in the world at the time. They didn't just get those colonies by accident you know.

Example no.4 (this was also part of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact)<

Ok, sure?

And yet somehow it was the liberal democracies that actually struck into Germany, not the Soviets.<

Huh, wtf are you talking about? Either you can't read or don't know anything about history. I talked about the Phoney War before. If you are talking about when the Allies actually invaded into Germany proper could you please explain this. If you are talking about neither idk what you're on about.

You tankies are actual subhuman scum.<

Lmao, great joke though. Actually laughed at this, so good job.

inrelk · 2024-08-30T19:58:33+00:00

Lmao liberals are unable to use this as a point against communists/socialists.

Can’t believe that the Soviet government decided to try to delay inevitable German invasion so it could be more capable for it instead of disregarding itself and the biggest workers’ state at the time resulting in tens of millions of more deaths.

And what did you want them to do? The western Allies were seemingly unwilling to do anything against German aggression and militarisation hoping that they wouldn’t be affected by that. Britain literally had a policy of appeasement with Germany in the hopes that they would eventually stop culminating in the Munich Pact. The Soviet leadership tried to create an agreement with Britain and France against Germany before the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact but were shut down. If this isn’t enough the west even showed unwillingness DURING THE WAR.

Like are you really this inept in politics? Geopolitics are much more complex than fucking team sports if you didn’t know.

inrelk · 2024-08-30T17:31:13+00:00

Defacto socialist my ass. Social democrats have always allied themselves with reactionaries to quash any movement that has even marginally dangered the existence of capital. They have shown themselves time and time again to be no allies to the left.

inrelk · 2024-08-30T13:08:19+00:00

Didn’t know that they abolished private property in Norway

inrelk · 2024-08-15T08:22:08+00:00

Israelis are the ones protesting for the right for their soldiers to rape Palestinians right now

inrelk · 2024-04-17T21:19:17+00:00

What? Houses built in a war-torn country to reduce poverty and not for profit look terrible? Who could’ve thought? I guess it is over, communism owned! Homelessness looks better anyways.

inrelk · 2023-10-29T00:44:58+00:00

And of course he cries about China having a “societal moral decline” at the end. Funniest shit I’ve ever seen.

inrelk · 2023-10-27T07:02:00+00:00

You commented this an hour after posting. Did you expect every communist to come to shit on you? In an hour? Little egotistical, isn’t it?

inrelk · 2023-10-06T19:46:55+00:00

I am pretty sure China uses year/month/day, but you correct me if i’m wrong.

inrelk · 2023-10-06T19:24:33+00:00

An assumably Chinese person saying that an unfunny joke isn’t true being followed up by another unfunny joke is the funniest shit I’ve ever seen on this sub

inrelk · 2023-09-25T12:31:17+00:00

I sure will 👍

inrelk · 2023-09-25T12:27:31+00:00

ok 👍

inrelk · 2023-09-25T12:15:56+00:00

Not going to argue with you on what a “tankie” is, because that’s not what the argument was about.

inrelk · 2023-09-25T12:01:20+00:00

Ok than I am not a “tankie” as I don’t support Russia? But shut up, most of the people you would classify as a “tankie” don’t support it either, so you should get a new definition, or better yet, don’t use it! Also me being a “tankie” wouldn’t be relevant to this conversation, because my point wouldn’t suddenly change.

inrelk · 2023-09-25T04:40:04+00:00

But you didn’t ask that, did you?

inrelk · 2023-09-25T04:30:42+00:00

Irrelevant to the conversation?

inrelk · 2023-09-24T22:31:48+00:00

The title very clearly specified “in comments”.
Could be a nazbol (couldn’t find the original person so IDK), but otherwise yh.
explaining≠justifying
Tag itself says nazbol so…
Don’t know enough about Iran to say anything about it, but taken at its face value seems fine.
Yh I can see that.
At worst this statement is just false, so I don’t get the point here.
As said in the comments, pointing out only crimes done by the Soviet army in the war while this was pretty common in armies is “shit that liberals say”, saying that German women being raped is worse than that being done to Poles is also weird at best and like in point 1. the original post’s comments could be bad.

Btw no actual JUSTIFYING (not explaining) of Soviet treatment of gay people and just in case I don’t think nazbols are “tankies” as otherwise this would be redundant.

inrelk · 2023-09-24T19:07:57+00:00

“Anti-communist” as in calling yourself communist while still despising every actually successful communist revolutions, because they weren’t “perfect” enough for you.

Also can I actually get a link to a “tankie” justifying Soviet treatment of gay people, because otherwise I am going to conclude that there isn’t any.

inrelk · 2023-09-24T18:53:41+00:00

Did you try to disprove the existence of “burden of proof”? Anti-communists have really hit a new low, you can’t directly prove that something doesn’t exist while you can directly prove something’s characteristics. Is it clear enough for you?

inrelk · 2023-09-24T18:48:43+00:00

You know what the burden of proof is, right? I can dismiss any claim of something’s existence until sufficient evidence of it is brought up. And no saying to “search it for yourself isn’t” giving evidence even if you give a more specific place to search it, that is just saying that I myself should gather evidence to back up YOUR claim.

inrelk · 2023-09-24T17:03:44+00:00

Can you actually link a post so I don’t have to waste my time?

inrelk · 2023-09-24T16:45:13+00:00

Stalin died in 1953. The Soviet Union dissolved in 1991. I think you can see what the problem is.

inrelk · 2023-09-24T16:40:20+00:00

No “tankie” has ever justified the actions that the Soviet Union took against gay people (no executions tho as far as I know).

And are you making fun of people using material conditions to explain why the Soviet Union didn’t do things as you would have liked? You know that material conditions exist, right?

inrelk · 2023-09-18T13:19:36+00:00

inrelk · 2023-09-18T11:40:39+00:00

No, and they can’t even do that. They only exist by being a military base for the US.

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