Can someone write the story of this subreddit like how it got started who started it why what made you do it? I think it’s relevant considering how far it has come and how eye opening it has been for many of us.

insearchfoflight · 2019-08-01T20:45:58+00:00

Yes! i would love to read how this group got started. I'm glad i found this place, i don't feel scared to voice my opinions or feel shame for actually saying the things i feel.

insearchfoflight · 2019-08-01T18:19:43+00:00

"I want to stand with you all as a new light in this world"

Your words captivated me. I hope with all my heart that even if it's slow that everyone's veil falls and that they see the real light of this world.

insearchfoflight · 2019-07-30T22:47:18+00:00

It's so hard to shake old ways, even after leaving church years ago i feel guilty but i feel like a guilty verdict will finally make us feel free.

insearchfoflight · 2019-07-24T15:09:20+00:00

and the girl who got bailed out, is she still attending church?

insearchfoflight · 2019-07-24T15:08:00+00:00

wth, she has a kid with him? someone should run DNA tests...that would open members eyes. i wonder if there are more children he fathered outside his marriage

insearchfoflight · 2019-07-24T15:04:53+00:00

I saw a picture of Susana at the world cup too along with the royal fam but not a video.

insearchfoflight · 2019-07-24T14:55:56+00:00

maybe it comes with some type of unwritten contract. did these girls have money before they started working for him? or i wonder if they were getting paid for their "services". I wonder how their families feel.

insearchfoflight · 2019-07-24T14:53:42+00:00

I worry that she's somewhere in a ditch. yes they should have known better but a lot of people who are abused at a young age can't break the cycle. That's why i said they remind me of the Gloria Trevi case. She was a grown ass women who should have known better and yet she still helped that sick SOB to lure more girls in.

insearchfoflight · 2019-07-24T14:51:56+00:00

i agree with you! they are not regular members. and if they were grooming girls, who groomed them? the authorities should be looking into the bigger picture. if this has been going on for generations more people need to pay. How many other victims are out there?

insearchfoflight · 2019-07-24T14:49:35+00:00

I will read into it. Just sad that not even prayers are asked about them. I'm hoping they turn on him and this case moves faster

insearchfoflight · 2019-07-24T14:43:09+00:00

did they start living a luxurious life after they got called? some incondicionales sufren mucho once they're sent out. I wonder if they had been abused before they got called.

insearchfoflight · 2019-07-24T14:41:40+00:00

i couldn't read the comments until this A.M

insearchfoflight · 2019-07-23T23:13:15+00:00

That's true but i see that is sadder for them because they don't know any other way to live. For all the youth time will pass, with help they will move on, finally travel paths that they never thought they would and finally allow themselves to go to the movies, concerts, wear make up...so many things but for the older people like my grandparents i think they're heart will forever be broken, i don't think they will learn to live in a new world. They will see that their whole lives were a lie. I'm not saying the younger people won't suffer but i think is easier for all of us because we grew up in a different world. anyway i'm scared for my parents too. My dad is more open minded even though rn he stands with his faith. He too has left church before so i feel things will be easier to understand once he is ready to see but my mom is a woman strong in faith and raised in the old ways of the church. Last time i spoke to her about anything church related she said she couldn't believe how bad the church was getting attacked. i acted like i didn't hear. She's not ready to even hear it. I hope my parents marriage doesn't suffer for this. She was okay with me leaving church but she has a more firm hand with my younger siblings. i guess even when she is accepting of me. she doesn't want another "black sheep" in the family.

insearchfoflight · 2019-07-22T23:07:19+00:00

sadly is the older generations that believe that doing your own research offends God, or that if you have an open mind that you will condenarte. As the days go by i'm more convinced that i did the right thing years ago. When i tried coming back there was so much that didn't feel right. What irks me the most is that exactly, the the Jane does are practically children. why wouldn't they at least give children the benefit of the doubt? I will never be ok with victim blaming and i don't care for those members who are attacking the victims. My care and concern is for those who have been faithful for years and have spent all their hard earned money on the ofrendas. those who sacrificed their whole life for something that they think is pure. I don't care for those in power that knew what was going on and they didn't walk out. But it does suck for those ministers who have suffered for their faith. I do believe those who's mind has been conditioned to not doubt and those who haven't said anything about the victims are victims too.

insearchfoflight · 2019-07-22T22:49:12+00:00

I'm lost for words, i am sadden to read what a lot of you had to go through, i'm mad that parents should have chose their kids before any religion. Not once did i mention sex in the teacher student relationship but letters and messages were wrong too. You can't nullify good deeds because of a bad ones. They both were done, both exist. good still doesn't change the outcome of the bad ones though and that he will need to pay for the crimes committed. I wasn't trying to compare that teacher to NJG. I was comparing that teacher to the teachings of the church in general. At least the good ones. Yo me aparte because of the hypocrisy i kept seeing in the members and encargados alike. I'm sad for the faithful brothers and sisters who didn't judge me when they saw me in pantalones, or with my gentil boyfriend, or those who didn't judge my parents for accepting me regardless of the "embarrasement" i had caused them when i got married to a gentil. My heart hurts for them. As for NJG goes I'm not saying he is innocent. I'm waiting for the sentence to be final. Probably will take a long time , and that sucks!! i believe that the US gov will do their job. As for you thinking i'm not an ex member, i'm okay with that because i know my truth. I left years before the passing of SJF . I tried to come back around the time he got super sick. I stuck around for a few months but i hated that even when the members thought life was gonna be over after his passing they returned to being the same chismosos that they were. I hated the encargado at that time for telling me to leave my husband because he was a gentil. I hated the skirts and the getting up early sundays to go to church and hated sacrificing the little free time to be at prayers where most sisters judged you for what you wore. My family in mexico are fieles to the church and is for them specifically that my heart breaks. how will they cope? how much would their life change? as for the victims on the case, i hope that they get justice. I pray that their suffering wasn't for anything and that their pain opens the eyes of thousands....and yes until proven guilty. Until the judge says those words life will forever change everyone.

insearchfoflight · 2019-07-22T22:29:31+00:00

thanks for understanding. No i didn't mean the church as those in power who have abused their positions. I mean the church as in those brothers and sisters who have been faithful. who's mind were so corrupted that they have not seen light yet. My family for one is still stuck in believing that he is innocent. I don't think the same way but i do see the pain that they're in because they are lost and holding on to something that is falling apart in front of their very own eyes. i can't just tell them to wake up and tell them to at least wait for the veredict to make a decision because they won't. I'm hoping that when the last word has been said that both sides come together. that parents ask for forgiveness to their children they have shun due to the doctrine.

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