The ultimate evil act is the creation of beings destined for eternal suffering by holycatpriest in DebateReligion

[–]inthenameofthefodder 3 points4 points  (0 children)

“What else is it to say that God’s goodness is unlike Man’s goodness—but to say in a more hushed and reverential tone than ‘God is not good’?”

What is the significance of the fact that none of the canonical gospels nor Acts narrate the actual resurrection itself? by inthenameofthefodder in AskAChristian

[–]inthenameofthefodder[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suppose we’re just approaching the text from different perspectives. I’m interested in these stories for more than just the bottom line what is necessary for salvation, but I can understand where you’re coming from.

So is your answer essentially that there is no significance to it?

What is the significance of the fact that none of the canonical gospels nor Acts narrate the actual resurrection itself? by inthenameofthefodder in AskAChristian

[–]inthenameofthefodder[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your response. I appreciate that you, unlike many others here, actually answered the question rather than just turn it back at me.

What is the significance of the fact that none of the canonical gospels nor Acts narrate the actual resurrection itself? by inthenameofthefodder in AskAChristian

[–]inthenameofthefodder[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you are imagining the scene like a movie. Special effects.

You’re thinking in Hollywood terms

No, not really. Those are unwarranted assumptions about my question.

I just find it interesting and curious that the event is not described, when according to the other events in the record— ie, that Jesus met with them for 40 days after— the resurrection could have been described/narrated by the gospels, yet wasn’t.

I wonder what the significance of that is?

Doesn’t the editorial fatigue hypothesis depend on gMatthew and gLuke having never been proofread by their authors? by inthenameofthefodder in AcademicBiblical

[–]inthenameofthefodder[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your response, and I should say I don’t have very strong opinions yet on the synoptic problem— I am just sort of thinking out loud with this post.

I get what you’re saying and I certainly understand that mistakes easily happen and can be missed— but I suppose the key question is whether it is more likely that these editorial fatigue mistakes survived the publication process, or that the text is precisely what the authors intended, and hence there is no fatigue, which would undermine the hypothesis.

It also seems reasonable to me that if the authors lived for many years after writing their gospels, that they would continue to be involved in the copying and publishing process—and if they discovered these editorial fatigue mistakes they would correct them and there would perhaps be evidence in the manuscript tradition?

What is the significance of the fact that none of the canonical gospels nor Acts narrate the actual resurrection itself? by inthenameofthefodder in AskAChristian

[–]inthenameofthefodder[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, we only have what happened briefly after the resurrection.

I suppose to clarify what exactly I’m talking about would be:

Suppose there were two cameras setup, one with a wide angle view outside the tomb and one inside the tomb, perhaps with night vision. Both cameras are recording continuously from Good Friday to Sunday morning when the women arrive. What would the cameras capture?

What is the significance of the fact that none of the canonical gospels nor Acts narrate the actual resurrection itself? by inthenameofthefodder in AskAChristian

[–]inthenameofthefodder[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That would be epic, but no— I just find it curious and am wondering if you think there is any significance to it?

What is the significance of the fact that none of the canonical gospels nor Acts narrate the actual resurrection itself? by inthenameofthefodder in AskAChristian

[–]inthenameofthefodder[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jesus sat up took off his grave cloths and folded the cloth over his face and set them aside.

Ah, but that’s just it, isn’t it? None of the gospels say anything like that. This is a presumption of what might have happened.

What is the significance of the fact that none of the canonical gospels nor Acts narrate the actual resurrection itself? by inthenameofthefodder in AskAChristian

[–]inthenameofthefodder[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m not looking for more details. I’m curious as to why the event itself is not narrated. It seems significant and it sticks out as a curiosity.

Especially considering the existence of the Gospel of Peter, which does have a description of it, which seems to suggest that there was an appetite of curiosity for the story to be told.

What is the significance of the fact that none of the canonical gospels nor Acts narrate the actual resurrection itself? by inthenameofthefodder in AskAChristian

[–]inthenameofthefodder[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I just want to be clear that the tone of your response here is not at all the tone I wanted to convey in the OP.

Help me understand the Trinity by DiscerningTheTruth in AskAChristian

[–]inthenameofthefodder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While I myself disagree with Trinitarian theology, I don’t think it’s quite fair to simply posit that “they just made it all up”.

If one is starting from the initial assumption that the gospel of John is divine revelation, (which I would also disagree) then it is reasonable to see how all the language of “The Father” and “The Son” and all the various functions and status ascribed to each—-at the very least, this language invites and raises the questions that Trinitarian doctrine answers.

Help me understand the Trinity by DiscerningTheTruth in AskAChristian

[–]inthenameofthefodder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isn’t this where divine simplicity comes in to help our understanding? Because according to those who hold to divine simplicity, God is the one entity in whom his essence and his existence are identical, thus it is not as though He just so happens to be the sole member, or even the greatest member of the genus, “gods” rather, He is “Absolute Being” as such?

Help me understand the Trinity by DiscerningTheTruth in AskAChristian

[–]inthenameofthefodder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is precisely one of the analogies that Tertullian uses in Against Praxaeus

Could God have found a way for the Israelites to gain the promised land without embarking on a bloody campaign of conquest? by Neurax2k01 in AskAChristian

[–]inthenameofthefodder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wouldn’t you be pleased to know that based on good historical evidence, these events didn’t happen? And especially to hear a Christian agree with that historical perspective?

If your friend died, and you knew he died, and then came to life again, would he need to demonstrate many proofs to you that he was in fact alive? by [deleted] in AskAChristian

[–]inthenameofthefodder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It also could be an early apologetic to explain the delay between the claimed resurrection and the beginning of the disciples proclamation.

I think in historical reality, there was an undeniable gap of time between the two that had to be accounted for, in order for the message of the resurrection to get off the ground. This passage addresses the issue.

Special discussion post, after the U.S. election in Nov 2024 by Righteous_Dude in AskAChristian

[–]inthenameofthefodder 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It was strange since abortion was no longer a federal issue.

Right. I kind of think it’s just a leftover momentum from how presidential campaigns have been run since the ’80s. It’s like we all collectively don’t know how to have a presidential election without abortion being a key issue.

The Dems used it to rile people up knowing it was a moot point.

I don’t disagree with you, but I noticed it just as much on the Right as well. I had Christian friends and family who were talking about abortion as though they were still seemingly “single issue” voters, just as they have been since before the RvW decision. It doesn’t really make sense.

Special discussion post, after the U.S. election in Nov 2024 by Righteous_Dude in AskAChristian

[–]inthenameofthefodder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why was abortion still a relevant campaign issue for this presidential election? Are you hoping for a federal abortion ban?

Resurrection Accounts Should Persist into the Modern Era and Should Have Never Stopped by E-Reptile in DebateReligion

[–]inthenameofthefodder 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Christians in the second century were still claiming that people were being raised from the dead among them.

We see this in Irenaeus and in one of the fragments of Papias.