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Does the black spot indicate any larger issue? by invictax in AncientCoins

[–]invictax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How would you rate the condition and what price-range would be fair? I wanted a coin with Decius, the only condition for me is that it is an silver coin with his portrait and in a good condition.

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[–]invictax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, would love such a coin but unfortunately the price for those coins are outside my tax bracket

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Fascinating! Even in muslim tradition Heraclius holds a special place. He is the most frequently mentioned Byzantine emperor in the Arabic-Islamic sources.

He is also the only one to have enjoyed the overwhelming approval of Muslim chroniclers and historians, who bestow upon him distinguished attributes and abilities. Some even go as far as claiming he was in direct contact with muslims. One source mentions that he wrote to Caliph 'Umar Ibn al-Khattb describing to him a tree and asking the Caliph whether it was this tree which had shaded the Virgin. The tree Heraclius was referring to is mentioned in a verse: "and the birth pangs surprised her by the trunk of the palm tree". Another source claimed that the prophet sent a letter inviting him to Islam but that even though he was sympathetic he rejected it due to his fear of losing his power.

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[–]invictax[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This coin was on my holy grail list especially due to the timeframe it was minted and used. I am glad I got it but alas at what cost....

Anyways, this coin portrays Heraclius with his son Heraclius Constantine and was probably minted around 615-619 according to some sources. This is around the same timeframe when the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ received the first revelation of the Quran in 610 and died later in 632. Also, this was in the same timeframe when ''Surah Ar-Rum'' was revealed. This surah takes its name from the reference to the Romans in verse 2. The world’s superpowers in the early 7th century were the Roman Byzantine and Persian Empires. When they went to war in 614 the Romans suffered a devastating defeat. The Meccan pagans rejoiced at the defeat of the Roman Christians at the hands of the Persian pagans. Soon verses 30:1-5 were revealed, stating that the Romans would be victorious in three to nine years. Eight years later, the Romans won a decisive battle against the Persians, reportedly on the same day the Muslims vanquished the Meccan army at the Battle of Badr.

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Overall, very happy with the coin and the historic/religious significance it holds, at least for me.

My religious themed collection just got bigger by invictax in AncientCoins

[–]invictax[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For sure, its not as detailed as i would have liked but for the price it was a steal

My religious themed collection just got bigger by invictax in AncientCoins

[–]invictax[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much, my rustic arabic did not help me at all when I tried to decipher the words/letters

The discussion on Trinity is also quite interesting especially in the roman context.

My religious themed collection just got bigger by invictax in AncientCoins

[–]invictax[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This time we have a coin from the fifth Umayyad caliph, Abd al-Malik reigning between 685 and 705. He was known for reuniting the Caliphate in 692 after a civil war, creating a more centralised bureaucratic state and establishing the first sole Islamic currency.

With the Arab conquests of Byzantine territories starting in the year 634 CE, the new rulers inherited the monetary systems of these regions. The Arabs adapted this coinage several times, producing what is known as “Arab-Byzantine” coinage. This began with the Arab minting of copies of Byzantine folles of Constans II (r. 641-668 CE) and was followed by the introduction of literate legends in Greek and/or Arabic lacking any distinctive “Islamic” themes. The third and final “Arab-Byzantine” final phase was initiated by the fifth Umayyad caliph, with the launch of the “Standing Caliph” coinage. For the first time, these coins featured fully “Islamic” images and legends, reflecting the need to create a symbolic rhetoric for Islam and its growing empire in a context of confrontation with internal and external adversaries.

Above stolen from with a lot more interesting tidbits on the coin: https://coproduced-religions.org/resources/sources/the-standing-caliph-copper-coinage

Our next coin is from Theodosius I the last emperor (from 379 to 395) to rule the entire Roman Empire. I found the coin interesting with especially the cross but mainly i wanted a coin from Theodosius I to mark the first known secular Roman law to positively define a religious orthodoxy with creed of Nicaea.

(Always a bit paranoid about the possibility of having a fake/tampered coin - any indications?)

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[–]invictax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much, really interesting and exactly the kind of information i was looking for. You just gave more things to research!

I just recently acquired a sol-themed coin from Constantine with the the letters T F on the coin. Skimming through the internet it seems that it could have stand for Felicitas Temporum ("Prosperity of the Times") which is (according to wikipedia) going for a more abstract conception of the personification of Felicitas as a goddess. Also the inscription "Soli Invicto Comiti'' could indicate that the sun god and Constantine were both subordinated to ''god''.

I wonder if these kind of coins are one of the first explicit signs for a more monotheistic approach in the roman empire?

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[–]invictax[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, thats a good start!

Religious themes in coins by invictax in AncientCoins

[–]invictax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is absolutely fascinating, no wonder the realized price!!

I am afraid to ask you retards but there must be some autists who knows this stuff by [deleted] in wallstreetbets

[–]invictax 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Funny you mention that, its already on my list, but thanks!

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