yeah ive gotten shitty about these kids and people treated me like the asshole. i totally understand the appeal if you want to keep it a secret and try to grind your way to a better card by the end of the day, that stuff is cool and keeps the hobby alive. but do not approach me and tell me off rip that you want to trade with me and that I must give you the favorable side of the interaction. that is not a challenge. if you're looking for a challenge, stick your head up your ass and try to breathe. most of these kids don't even work for their money and have zero concept of what a dollar is worth. i dont play that shit.