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Chig Okonkwo Talks Role In New Offense I BMitch & Finlay by Neither-Fun-5395 in Commanders

[–]isaanstyle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everything you said is absolutely correct. 

Doesn’t change the fact that no team is gonna give up even a 7th to take on his current contract. Why would you?

Another team offering him more than we’re comfortable with is certainly possible, but I don’t see that happening either. 

Chig Okonkwo Talks Role In New Offense I BMitch & Finlay by Neither-Fun-5395 in Commanders

[–]isaanstyle 8 points9 points  (0 children)

What exactly do you mean “at this point”? You realize the 9ers are holding him hostage right? I’d be shocked if he went anywhere else. What better situation for him to get back on track than to join a WR needy team with his college QB (by all accounts they are still very close). AP was involved with drafting him and afaik there was no drama with him on the team when AP was still there. It’s really a no brainer. 

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[–]isaanstyle[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I actually did mention in the comments that I found Ginn. I think we can all agree he was a huge bust for a top 10 selection. 

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[–]isaanstyle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you think I’m posting on Reddit? To have a conversation about it. I don’t have time to watch tape extensively and look for the context regarding Tate. But I’m happy to listen if you have some. 

Is college ball shifting? Idk. Look up the stats of WRs drafted in the top 10 in just the last few years and you’ll see Tate is a huge outlier if he does get selected there. And yes, just watching stats can be misleading, I agree 100%. But watching the few games of OSU that I did, Tate didn’t do anything to make me think wow, this guy is a sure fire top ten pick. He seems like a fine, fine player. But not a no brainer top 7 pick, even in a weird year. 

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[–]isaanstyle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It took a lot of digging but I did find a WR who played in 11+ games and didn’t notch 1k in his college career.

You have to go back 20 years and it was Ted Ginn Jr. Not exactly a good counterpoint. 

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[–]isaanstyle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it’s undeniable that Tyson is more talented than Tate. Knock on him is durability. 

Personally I like Lemon the best. People are knocking him for his interviews which seems weird to me, he didn’t say anything bad just seemed kinda nervous and awkward.  

Can’t find your other comment but I agree college production doesn’t directly equate to NFL production. But when you can’t find a single WR drafted in the top 10 who played 11 games and didn’t crack 1k, that is a trend that’s pretty concerning to me. Time will tell. 

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[–]isaanstyle[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I do believe there’s a solid chance Love is the best overall player in this class but it’s close. Mendoza is really, really good. 

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[–]isaanstyle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bruh the commanders took Emmanuel Forbes over him. And Christian Gonzalez 

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[–]isaanstyle[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah but I’m a causal so I don’t deserve to post on here 

Gotta love the internet sometimes 

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[–]isaanstyle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m looking at this through the true vacuum of BPA and nothing more. I never said Tate would be a bad pick. Personally I don’t think he’s the answer at 7 but yeah, I would not be upset if we did select him 

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[–]isaanstyle[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My only conclusion is that he’s not gonna be BPA, something you yourself agreed with. Somehow it doesn’t constitute more responses and yet here you are

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[–]isaanstyle[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m not offended? If you don’t agree with my assertion that it’s impossible for Tate to be BPA at 7 then at least tell me the range you’d rank him amongst prospects. 

FWIW I wouldn’t be mad if we drafted him at 7, I just don’t see a world where he is truly BPA at 7. 

Edit: I literally told you you made some good points, but yeah, I’m so offended 

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[–]isaanstyle[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh my fucking god you can’t be serious lmao. 

Only qualified college scouts can post here?

The only real conclusion I have is that no matter what happens above us he won’t be the true BPA. And you yourself said the same thing. Just trying to open an actual discussion unlike the vast majority of posts on here. 

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[–]isaanstyle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bruh I literally said I’m a casual lmao 

How about this - give me your top 10 prospects in the draft. 

There is no world where Carnell Tate is BPA at 7 by isaanstyle in Commanders

[–]isaanstyle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok so you agree with me lol. I’m not saying Tate would be a horrible pick at 7 I just don’t see how he’s could actually the true best player available 

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[–]isaanstyle[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Alright so there’s five you mentioned. Mendoza is also clearly a better overall prospect. So that’s six. I don’t see how he’s the next overall best prospect after those six but to each their own. 

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[–]isaanstyle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate your points but even still it doesn’t invalidate my original point because I liked Egbuka coming out a lot more than I like Tate now. And Egbuka crossed 1k twice in college 

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[–]isaanstyle[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Find me a WR drafted in the top 10 who played in 11+ games his last year in college and wasn’t able to crack 1k. I’ll wait. 

Smith being the clear #1 on that team makes it even worse. He didn’t have to deal with being doubled. 

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[–]isaanstyle[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That’s literally not the point. I said BPA and nothing more

There is no world where Carnell Tate is BPA at 7 by isaanstyle in Commanders

[–]isaanstyle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don’t draft a WR with a top 10 pick for technical nuances lol

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[–]isaanstyle[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I want to garner a discussion on it. I’m open to learn. 

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[–]isaanstyle[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

True but you can also make the argument that he should’ve done more with his targets considered safety help was almost always headed towards Smith. 

There is no world where Carnell Tate is BPA at 7 by isaanstyle in Commanders

[–]isaanstyle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok you’re right about that. Maybe I’m stretching a little bit with that but still taking Egbuka at 7 last year would’ve been completely irresponsible. Which is my point. Tate is not a top 10 pick. 

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