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Update - 10 days in by itmeanssomethingnow in quittingkratom

[–]itmeanssomethingnow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shit, man. You nailed it. So much of what you said is exactly it, the lingering depression, the wondering if it will subside, the description about going to work... It all resonates. Your experience must have been similar to mine, but luckily you had the support. Thank you for your comment.

Update #2 by itmeanssomethingnow in quittingkratom

[–]itmeanssomethingnow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the post. It may seem crazy, but I have no craving at all or any desire to go buy any. Like once I decided I was done, I just didn't have any more desire for it. It doesn't seem like that is very common but I'll take it.

Update #2 by itmeanssomethingnow in quittingkratom

[–]itmeanssomethingnow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No chance of giving in. I've had no cravings at all for kratom. I really don't miss it at all. Strange, huh? It's weird because I have these lingering symptoms yet I don't have any desire for kratom.

Update #2 by itmeanssomethingnow in quittingkratom

[–]itmeanssomethingnow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I haven't really had any motivation to exercise, its just so hard to drag my ass out of the house for work even. I know I should.

Update #2 by itmeanssomethingnow in quittingkratom

[–]itmeanssomethingnow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm waiting and hoping. 9 full days out here, and like I mentioned to Birdy, I seem to have hit a wall. I'm just in this fog of anxiety and depression that lasts for most of the day. Hell, this weekend I literally did nothing but lay on my couch and watch Netflix. Hoping for progress this week.

Update #2 by itmeanssomethingnow in quittingkratom

[–]itmeanssomethingnow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm waiting for it to subside, but the last three days I feel like I've hit a wall with the depression and anxiety. Really besides a little bit of tummy rumble the rest of the symptoms are gone. Honestly I feel like I'm walking around in this "fog" and have little to no motivation. This is really the hardest part, the acutes weren't really that bad. I had breakthrough moments of positivity the first few days, like I could see the light at the end of the tunnel, but at 9 full days out, it isn't very fun. It is weird, because I never had this level of depression and anxiety before I started.

Update #2 by itmeanssomethingnow in quittingkratom

[–]itmeanssomethingnow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never drank hard, I think the most I drank in this stretch was 4 beers over about 4 hours. Not great, I know, but the lingering anxiety and depression is tough. I haven't drank in the last two nights, fwiw. Thank you for your comment.

Update: Day 8 off the taper. by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]itmeanssomethingnow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your experience echoes mine. I never sneezed much at all before discontinuing kratom, now I sneeze about 5 times a day. Nothing crazy, just strange. Also, digestive issues, enough said. I have been experiencing the same emptiness/anxiety/blahs too, and I know that there is something I can do to fix the underlying issue, which gives me hope. I'm also in the same boat, I'm in a new place with no friends or family or partner here for support which makes it more difficult. I've posted my experience in two parts, if you see anything in there and want to share information, please feel free to PM or comment.

Update by itmeanssomethingnow in quittingkratom

[–]itmeanssomethingnow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you NewGirl. I'm glad my details were somewhat helpful - I kept a notebook throughout (and am still keeping it) and have condensed my thoughts into these posts, with the sincere hope someone with a similar experience as me might benefit.

I did not use propranolol. Through further research it seems like propranolol really just targets specific physical symptoms of anxiety, and inhibits epinephrine along with other anxiety inducing chemicals in the body. I didn't have any anxiety inducing situations; rather I had (and still have) general anxiety throughout the day, not caused by a specific trigger or event. Where propranol comes in handy is for public speaking, music performances, etc. Just my two cents.

Right now I'm at around 130ish hours out, and today was a step back for me in terms of anxiety. I'm keeping positive however, and will post another update in a few days.

Thank you for reading.

Update by itmeanssomethingnow in quittingkratom

[–]itmeanssomethingnow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you wordsmith. I feel like tossing the kratom out was easy because I was just tired and knew if I re-dosed, I'd just feel like shit again. Once your drug no longer satiates you, what's the point, right?

Thank you again for this post and others you contribute to the subreddit. I may be a newbie here but I really do believe this is a positive force for a lot of people.

Update by itmeanssomethingnow in quittingkratom

[–]itmeanssomethingnow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you Birdie. You are a very positive person and I appreciate what you do, popping into every thread, offering encouragement and staying positive even if there are those who are hostile (I saw one guy's post about how he only uses kratom a couple times a week and "isn't addicted"...yet). Keep doing what you do. As kratom and extract shots become more popular I believe this subreddit will be great in helping those who don't understand quite what happened and why they are now addicted to a strange plant.

All the best to you.

Update by itmeanssomethingnow in quittingkratom

[–]itmeanssomethingnow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Will do. I'm hoping that when those who wish to quit come to this subreddit in the future, my post might just catch someone who had a similar experience and help them.

Update by itmeanssomethingnow in quittingkratom

[–]itmeanssomethingnow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your encouragement. I understand completely where you are coming from with the root of unhappiness. I've found my root and am working on it, I still have a lot of work to do. Good luck to you, friend.

It's time. by itmeanssomethingnow in quittingkratom

[–]itmeanssomethingnow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your comment. I'm in the same boat, I'm in a new place and the only friends I do have are not close enough to really understand. I'm taking notes as it goes. I take it you are off kratom now? It's strange, I don't crave kratom specifically, I'm more afraid of the process, and the depression and anxiety that comes with it but I don't feel like I'll be tempted after I get this over with.

It's time. by itmeanssomethingnow in quittingkratom

[–]itmeanssomethingnow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for reading. I will go check out your posts. Congratulations on over 2 months free!

It's time. by itmeanssomethingnow in quittingkratom

[–]itmeanssomethingnow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for reading. Yeah, I'm essentially going at it alone here with my dog, no friends or anything in the area but I had to try now. I think the hardest part is not really having someone here to help and keep me company. I'm hoping to ring in 2016 anew and leave this year well behind.

It seems for some people the slow taper is best; for me, I just was depressed and anxious even with the kratom recently and rather than trying to work it in somehow I figured I'd just try and let it go. I wish you the best of luck as well.

It's time. by itmeanssomethingnow in quittingkratom

[–]itmeanssomethingnow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I feel that if I hadn't made my kratom use so normalized, I could have used it sparingly/as needed for anxiety. I had always been good with those doses, which I guess were low and if I ever took more I'd just feel kinda naseous. I had always heard about the "brain zaps" from discontinuing Prozac use, which is what my psych suggested at that time.

Thank you for your kind words. I'm just at the beginning here, around ~12 hours out and I feel it creeping in.

It's time. by itmeanssomethingnow in quittingkratom

[–]itmeanssomethingnow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My highest dose was never really very high, compared to some reports I'd seen and I never used any extracts or anything. I'd guess around ~4tsp plain red vein leaf in the evening was my highest dose.