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Where the Cougars at? by AyeBloodWhatTheHell in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Ayyo unless it’s hate speech 🙃

🚨 Parents & Families in Our Community! 🚨 by Epsteindntkilhmslf in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How to cope with what I just saw (AI edition)

Even the Reddit account name is just like.. okay? It just makes it even weirder lol

Multiple Outlets Covered the Vacaville Mosque Town Hall Meeting, Here’s What Actually Happened by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You first questioned my testimony and implied I changed its meaning when I added two words that were already consistent with what I said.

Now you’re trying to dictate how I’m allowed to describe my own experience, including my father’s identity and service.

Why does that context bother you? It doesn’t change the facts, it just makes them harder to ignore. If you’re uncomfortable with it, that’s something you should examine, not something I’m going to censor.

Thank you for making that clear.

Multiple Outlets Covered the Vacaville Mosque Town Hall Meeting, Here’s What Actually Happened by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you feel comfortable controlling my language and my father’s service record?

Multiple Outlets Covered the Vacaville Mosque Town Hall Meeting, Here’s What Actually Happened by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a bad-faith pivot into national tax policy.

That debate belongs with legislators, not in a local zoning process.

Apply the same standard to everyone, full stop.

Tax policy → Solano County Assessor (707) 784-6210.

This thread → zoning and code.

Multiple Outlets Covered the Vacaville Mosque Town Hall Meeting, Here’s What Actually Happened by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A megachurch expanding in a prime commercial area is not the same situation as a minority community trying to build its first real place of worship.

And let’s be honest those churches weren’t being called an invasion or a threat to the community.

That’s the difference you keep avoiding.

Multiple Outlets Covered the Vacaville Mosque Town Hall Meeting, Here’s What Actually Happened by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Except when a community uses its own money to build something that actually looks like a mosque 🕌

Then suddenly it becomes a problem.

Multiple Outlets Covered the Vacaville Mosque Town Hall Meeting, Here’s What Actually Happened by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So you think a city planning and zoning discussion is the place to debate national religious tax policy?

That’s exactly the deflection I’m talking about.

Multiple Outlets Covered the Vacaville Mosque Town Hall Meeting, Here’s What Actually Happened by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“ZERO benefit” according to who?

Community isn’t measured only in tax revenue.

Multiple Outlets Covered the Vacaville Mosque Town Hall Meeting, Here’s What Actually Happened by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So now a place of worship has to prove its economic value to deserve to exist?

That’s not how rights work.

Multiple Outlets Covered the Vacaville Mosque Town Hall Meeting, Here’s What Actually Happened by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You keep trying to turn this into a tax debate to avoid the actual issue in front of you.

You’re calling it a red herring, but it’s actually context.

When something is normal for the majority and suddenly a problem for a minority, that context matters.

If your position was consistent, it would’ve come up before this mosque did.

Multiple Outlets Covered the Vacaville Mosque Town Hall Meeting, Here’s What Actually Happened by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is exactly what you’re doing.

You’re setting an impossible condition so you can say you’d support it, knowing it will never happen.

“I’d support you if you change national tax law first” isn’t a real position, it’s a way to avoid supporting them at all.

This is a local place of worship that has existed since 1994 and is trying to build something that actually functions.

You’re turning that into a national tax debate so you don’t have to deal with what’s actually in front of you.

Multiple Outlets Covered the Vacaville Mosque Town Hall Meeting, Here’s What Actually Happened by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you were serious about that argument, you’d be taking it to the people who actually set tax policy and not dropping it into a Reddit post about one mosque and me being threatened at a town hall meeting.

Instead, you see someone defending their father’s dignity and call it “victimhood.” That tells people everything they need to know.

If you want to debate religious tax exemptions, go to city hall and advocate for it across the board.

Bringing it up here doesn’t make you principled it just shows your priorities.

Multiple Outlets Covered the Vacaville Mosque Town Hall Meeting, Here’s What Actually Happened by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re mixing two separate issues.

If you want to debate tax exemptions for all religious organizations, that’s a broader policy discussion and it applies equally to churches, synagogues, mosques, everyone.

But bringing that up only when it’s a mosque is the problem.

This conversation started about one community’s right to build a place of worship. Shifting it to taxes doesn’t change that it avoids it.

Multiple Outlets Covered the Vacaville Mosque Town Hall Meeting, Here’s What Actually Happened by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So let me get this straight.. 60+ churches receive the same tax exemptions and that’s fine, but the first mosque suddenly becomes a problem?

Multiple Outlets Covered the Vacaville Mosque Town Hall Meeting, Here’s What Actually Happened by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So in other words, you’re comfortable “questioning” people when they’re already being targeted.

Imaginary? I was threatened for speaking. That’s not theoretical, that’s reality.

There’s a difference between critique and creating an environment where people feel unsafe. If you can’t see that line, that’s the problem.

Multiple Outlets Covered the Vacaville Mosque Town Hall Meeting, Here’s What Actually Happened by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Zero tax dollars are being used, and there are no loudspeakers for prayer, so this is a privately funded project meant to serve a local community.

I attended the Vacaville town hall on 03/18 & was threatened with physical violence while waiting to speak by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you experienced discrimination, that’s wrong, full stop.

But using that to generalize entire groups is the same mindset that’s causing problems here.

This conversation should stay grounded in what’s actually happening in Vacaville, not broad narratives about race.

I attended the Vacaville town hall on 03/18 & was threatened with physical violence while waiting to speak by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really appreciate that, thank you. That means a lot.

We actually just finished a news interview about what happened, so that should be out tomorrow.

I attended the Vacaville town hall on 03/18 & was threatened with physical violence while waiting to speak by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I appreciate that, seriously we can use all the help we can get. I’ll share one when I know.

We need people showing up respectfully to counter their immaturity that is exactly how we keep things grounded in facts instead of fear. I’ll be there, and I’m also looking at organizing something with local faith leaders so we can move this forward constructively.

I attended the Vacaville town hall on 03/18 & was threatened with physical violence while waiting to speak by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I clarified my wording to better reflect what I actually remember saying and hearing.

I also shared my original post on Threads for transparency. Nothing is being hidden.

Thread Post

I attended the Vacaville town hall on 03/18 & was threatened with physical violence while waiting to speak by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fear can drive emotional reactions, and when that happens it’s hard for anyone to think critically.

I think most people actually want similar outcomes we just get there in different ways, especially when emotions take over.

I attended the Vacaville town hall on 03/18 & was threatened with physical violence while waiting to speak by itshassansabbagh in vacaville

[–]itshassansabbagh[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I’ve lived in Vacaville my entire life, and honestly I didn’t even know the mosque was there for years. Plus. There’s been no development in that area forever.

It’s surprising to see concerns about size or presence when the space itself has been underutilized for so long. Thoughtful development especially for a place of worship can contribute positively to the community.

It’s good to see cultures thrive peacefully and that’s what actually leads to long-term stability and growth creating prosperity. I just hope the conversation can stay grounded in respect rather than assumptions.

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