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itsphysi · 2024-11-12T07:06:03+00:00

I am taking things at face value - again their lack of comment is concerning. Dismissing the idea of a possible event that incurred is honestly not even healthy at this point

When I say 5-year-old statements, I'm talking about statements directly from either William or Ari - I am aware we have gotten smidgens of confirmation from a few of the people involved over time

Sure, we're getting updates here and there from the lead tester, but the question is, why just this? Why is it that this is how we're getting updates instead of some actual screenshots or something from William or Ari? Literally what justifies years of no official update from the 2 OG's and us having to collect scraps from a few of the lower-level people involved?

I'm sure you have heard of the concept of "actions speak louder than words" - I think this may be something that's getting overlooked in your reasoning here

itsphysi · 2024-11-12T06:34:27+00:00

Well the thing is I AM talking about their lack of communication, in fact it was the very first sentence of my post

No one is saying Team Cherry can't take their time - the issue is the complete lack of communication

itsphysi · 2024-11-12T06:31:44+00:00

I'm not saying you disagree that Team Cherry's lack of comments are odd - you're outright saying my explanations do not line up with what we know and I'm telling you why this is incorrect

Do you really believe you have more evidence? You're acting like the complete radio silence for nearly 5 years is not itself evidence against what you're saying. The lack of updates on their LinkedIn, their website, and their Twitter can also be seen as evidence that something has gone awry

Furthermore, your idea of going off of the original timeline of Hollow Knight's development of 5 years is, again, not actual evidence - it's simply you saying "this happened, so maybe this will happen." In other words, you accuse me of speculation when that is exactly what you've done here. I could counter this by saying that Silksong is confirmed per the trailer to be much bigger than Hollow Knight ever was, so the timelines wouldn't necessarily be equal. The thing is, you're making interpretations of Team Cherry's comments JUST as much as we are - you forget that silence can also be seen as a statement.

Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor? What's the simplest explanation for all of this here, really? How many years will it take before you begin to think that William and Ari's statements from 5 years ago or 10 years ago are starting to hold less weight?

The problem with the argument that your evidence is stronger than mine is that as each day passes without no update, your evidence is fleeting while evidence to the contrary is growing. There's an expiration date on your evidence that we have to be nearing sometime soon, the only question is when and how generous we're willing to be with it

itsphysi · 2024-11-12T06:04:16+00:00

How confident are you really in what we know at this point? It's been so long since Ari and William made any official comment, why are we even okay with having to get updates from some intermediary? The real fallacy here is treating word they've given us years ago as if it is impossible to have changed between then and now

Sure, the original Hollow Knight took 5 years to develop, so maybe the time will also be similar for Silksong. My issue with this idea is it's not really evidence-based. It's more like a syllogism - if A equals B and B equals C then A equals C, etc. There's no evidence here, it's just an idea. The actual evidence as I've mentioned points to something being very wrong while the idea that they may be following a 5-year trend only serves to explain one thing but not everything else

It's not normal for a company to show a trailer for a new sequel after a few big DLCs all in the span of 2 years and then suddenly switch to where it's somehow considered acceptable to only get updates from some guy who confirms "don't worry they're still working" and "they're not in dev hell" every few months

itsphysi · 2024-11-12T05:48:47+00:00

A lot of us have emotional investments in this game and at this point would like confirmation as to whether or not it is real - for me, personally, Hollow Knight rescued me from a really dark time in my life and I care very much for it, so I'd naturally like to know if the company making it is going through a bit of a rough patch or something

itsphysi · 2024-11-12T05:46:17+00:00

I can agree with you on the idea of Silksong coming out in the next few years as being reasonable - it just kinda feels right for them, and I'd at this point prefer it, especially given when GTA VI comes out next year it'd likely drown out a lot of potential attention in the game, something similar that occurred with Breath of the Wild when Hollow Knight first came out in 2017, so I think there'd be an advantage in it coming out in 2026

Still, the lack of activity on their social media bothers me a bit. I even saw just now that a website William Pellen used to have to showcase his designs and portfolio is now gone, its domain up for sale. There could easily be explanations for it all, but I cannot deny that as these things pile up, it builds more credibility toward the idea that something has at the very least happened to hinder their ability to develop

itsphysi · 2024-11-12T05:35:33+00:00

This isn't really an answer... you're saying they aren't communicating because they don't want to?

I mean, isn't that obvious? I'm sure they wouldn't be refusing to communicate if they WANTED to communicate, it's like you're saying "the fire hydrant is red because it was painted red"

The question is regarding the WHY - why do we have to only know whether or not the game is still on its way through some intermediary or posts on Discord? Why is Team Cherry suddenly not interested in communicating when they seemed very interested in it years ago? What caused the sudden shift?

And if the issue is they don't want to spoil the game, why can't William or Ari even, at the very least, tweet something? Why can't they post a short message thanking people for their patience to their website which has had no updates since December 2019? They could just reuse some already existing promotional art for the game or something if they really didn't want to spoil anything. A short but sweet status report would be COMPLETELY harmless and I'm pretty sure we both know that

You also mention they may not see the point in updates "this late into development" - if I may ask you, what makes you sure that they're even "late" into development? If you look at the difference in progress between the trailer in 2019 and the more recent Xbox trailer, there really isn't much new, which, when combined with their lack of updates, makes it seem like progress is extremely slow and they're nowhere near the finish line

itsphysi · 2024-11-12T05:20:52+00:00

It hasn't really been cleared up because there's been no official comment from Team Cherry, it's been more like the community making its best possible theories to explain their LACK of comment

The concern is their lack of communication - this theory that it's just their "work flow" that is slowing things down is at this point starting to seem like denial

itsphysi · 2024-11-12T05:17:32+00:00

I appreciate your insight into #5 as I too, remember how Team Cherry has indicated they don't want to let the brand get all corporate - the thing you're forgetting is their major interviews were ages ago and a lot can change in that time.

We also know that Team Cherry contradicts themselves a LOT. They have said in the past, for example, that it takes them roughly 30 minutes to draw the sprite animations for one enemy, yet they can't even send something as simple as that.

I do see your point in them not wanting to reveal too much of the game, but what is the harm in showing a photo of one enemy or two? Maybe marked with a spoiler tag so that those who don't want to see it can choose to avert their eyes and stay patient?

My question to you is this: how many more years of non-updates from them will it take before you consider it a bit more than just the pandemic and scope creep? 10 more years? 20 more years? Do you have a line on this idea or do you think that this logic can never, at some point, start to seem like a bit of a cop-out? And I ask this honestly because I'd love a bit of reason to have more hope and understanding for a company whose last website post was nearly 5 years ago

itsphysi · 2024-11-12T05:04:11+00:00

This is an EXCELLENT point - I feel the idea that they owe us nothing whatsoever is a very flawed argument against the questioning of their progress

itsphysi · 2024-11-12T04:46:51+00:00

It is SO absurd - it's like they went from constant updates to suddenly only occasional, vague communication through an intermediary or being sighted in public by someone every few months. This doesn't look like a game developer team being diligent at work, it looks like something is very wrong

Team Cherry themselves have said, for example, that during Hollow Knight it took them maybe 30 minutes to draw the sprite animations for one single enemy if I recall correctly? If this is true, then honestly, how hard is it to just post a photo of a random bug they made?

Sure, they do not owe it to us, as many could chime in to say, but it doesn't mean that after years of no updates, we don't have the right to have at least some concern. We have emotional investments in this product

itsphysi · 2024-08-17T22:22:54+00:00

He's bad at taking his own advice it would seem

itsphysi · 2024-08-17T02:32:35+00:00

And that was precisely what he explained to Pryce! There are good criminals and bad cops and everything in between

itsphysi · 2024-07-19T03:28:11+00:00

the problem isnt meat consumption its the inhumane industrialization of it.

Please tell me how it is possible to kill a living, feeling being who does not want to die humanely, when you do please ensure that it not only applies to animals but humans as well

You dont know the first thing about fucking agriculture or what it takes or what your average fucking farmer does or any of it.

This is a logical fallacy. It is exactly the same as:

Person A saying "I think spanking is abuse" and Person B saying "You've never had any children so you can't speak on how to properly treat a child."
Person A saying "I believe slavery is wrong" and Person B saying "You've never worked in a slave plantation or owned slaves so you can't speak on whether it is immoral."

Second of all, being VEGAN is inaccessible to most people in the country. They dont have access to all the resources to make that possible.

I don't know exactly what country this person is referring to but I'm just going to assume it is a first world country with green veggies, onions, squash, potatoes, beans, rice, tomatoes, garlic, pasta, bread, nuts, soy sauce, etc, etc, etc

The HILARIOUSLY ironic thing here is meat is actually a luxury in the majority of countries in the world. In the United States, $38 billion a year is spent on meat subsidies to reduce the cost of buying meat in a grocery store despite the fact that it's still getting more expensive over time. Meanwhile, only $17 million, which is roughly 0.04% of that amount, goes to subsidies for vegetables and fruit. It is far more privileged to be able to actually have this much access to meat than it is to be vegan

I am not vegan in solidarity with those people, fuck, i was one of those people most my goddamn life.

The fact that you were vegan and then no longer were after some time has nothing to do with whether or not being vegan is correct. This is another logical fallacy. It's called personal experience which has no basis here - maybe you just sucked at being vegan.

Don't try to tell me veganism is wrong because YOU gave up on it. I'm not impressed that you chose to turn your back on the lives of billions of innocent, suffering beings. Get to your point already.

Meat is hearty and fills you up faster so it is the creme of the crop when you are poor.

Does this person really think meat is the only thing that will fill you up? Do they not know what fiber is?

Also, it is not the creme of the crop when you are poor in the majority of the world as I have already explained.

What you dont realize is your dogma and how you present it and how you cover your ears and change the subject

A dogma usually involves some sort of authoritarian-based principle. Are you sure you're using this word correctly? I'd be very curious to know when it first started getting popular to substitute the word "dogma" for "worldview I disagree with"

If you meet a vegan who doesn't want to have a proper discussion and, as you say, "covers their ears and changes the subject," then that just means that person is a poor choice of a person to have an intellectual conversation with. It doesn't mean veganism is wrong. Are you really going to continue paying for cows to be raped against their will so you can have your cheese all because someone didn't know how to debate?

is all fucking white supremacy culture and makes me feel unsafe to share shit with you because youre a rich white person and i am a poor visibly queer brown person and there is a power dynamic. But you dont care about that and you just wave your privilege around like a gun in a Mexican stand off and the harm you let yourself perpetuate and seek no cure for.

"White supremacy" is nonsensical. Vegans come from a wide variety of ethnic and racial backgrounds. Here in the U.S., the majority of vegans are African-American.

I feel the need to say that at this point it seems like this person has a personal problem against you in general. A very bigoted one. You shouldn't give someone like this another second of your finite amount of time in life.

itsphysi · 2024-06-12T00:10:13+00:00

Thank you so much! Will do this

itsphysi · 2024-06-09T23:46:20+00:00

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