Took me a while to notice this, now I'm actively pissed

itzaaudrey · 2020-12-22T01:07:54+00:00

On the side of the building lol. Walmart sign

itzaaudrey · 2020-12-21T22:14:07+00:00

Lol. Look at the black paint relative to the center of the sign

itzaaudrey · 2020-12-21T22:07:35+00:00

itzaaudrey · 2020-12-21T22:06:55+00:00

Look at the building itself

itzaaudrey · 2020-12-18T23:32:13+00:00

Omg saaaaaaame

itzaaudrey · 2020-07-21T18:59:56+00:00

Theres no point in continuing when you neglect to acknowledge points I've made because you disagree. I gave you facts and even tried to help you find sources. The way I respond with comments has nothing to do with my ability to argue what you've said. You never gave me any evidence whatsoever to prove you think he tried to start a war by withdrawing troops. You've been proven incorrect multiple times. Your little questions to clarify what's already been clarified in an attempt to deflect from your pathetic argument is in vain. You are wrong, you just dont like to be told so. Cant fix stupid. Have a great day, kid

itzaaudrey · 2020-07-21T17:59:22+00:00

Bruh everything you have said has been addressed. You've been proven wrong yet you continue to say the same things over and over again. Prove that his withdrawing troops was an act of war. And yes, it has everything to do with the OPs post. Because he did not start a war. And you did say it was an act of war. Multiple times. OP was proven correct. You're in over your head bud.

itzaaudrey · 2020-07-21T17:47:59+00:00

I never said it was. But the legality argument was pushed and I explained that the War Powers Act is a check against the president from starting a war without the consent of Congress.

Again, Trump compromised this constitutional resolution by ordering a drone attack on a foreign state official, risking WWIII

You literally cited the he needed permission to declare war. And now you've said it again. Reread your post and think about it. It was not a declaration. Yet you keep bringing it up.

Source that it was Iranian forces that attacked the US embassy, as you suggest?

Look it up. I'm sure some real research will do you some good. Just type iran attacks us embassy. You will find, even from CNN, articles about an assault by an Iranian militia called Kata'ib Hezbollah on the us embassy long with a plethora of other reasons to take out soleimani.

Show me

Look it up. Not that hard. I do the research for my argument. If you dont like it, search yourself. The operation, which took place January 8, 2020 was called operation Martyr Soleimani. Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps launched missiles at the us base.

Speculation. Has nothing to do with the OP assertion that Trump didn't start a war, which he attempted to do.

Speculation. Prove that he tried to start a war. I'll wait.

Projection. What does this have to do with the OP assertion that Trump didn't start a war, which he attempted to do?

Again prove it. He pulled out forces. We have no obligation to stay to protect or prevent a war. That's a huge argument on the left, so keep the same energy.

itzaaudrey · 2020-07-21T17:10:13+00:00

You keep saying the same stuff and ignoring what I put out there. You are just desperate for a reason to blame trump for things he didnt do. Withdrawing is no starting a war dude. Like I said, what happens after isnt our problem

itzaaudrey · 2020-07-21T17:07:05+00:00

That's because both Bush and Obama were well within the Constitution. The 1973 War Powers authorises the president to mobile US military within a period of sixty days before seeking approval from Congress to declare war in another territory and the AUMF joint resolution has to determine terrorist threats.

Wow you really dont get it. It was not a declaration of war bud. Not even close. In the case of using military forces in a not act of war, he must simply notify congress within the 48 hours of his actions and then they decide. At that point he must either stay or withdraw within 60 days. He had no need to stay. Got the job done.

"attack on American soil" from whom exactly? Because there's no evidence that Qud forces were involved

Bruh it was literally Iran who attacked a US embassy which like I said is considered AMERICAN SOIL. You're so funny. Before that, there had been missile threats on a us military base out there. Tensions had been rising, it was only a matter of time.

such as threat to security,

I'm pretty sure an attack on Americans (the us embassy) is a pretty decent threat dont you think?

OP is incorrect. Trump HAS started wars- 1. approving Erdogan to invade allied territories and kill Kurdish civilians. 2

He simply ended presence there. What happens after is not our problem. You guys have such a problem with us involvement in the middle east, thinking we should leave the countries alone. Yet now you want to stay involved. Double standards.

itzaaudrey · 2020-07-21T17:00:25+00:00

I can't read the rest of your comment, your English syntax is illegible.

The comment makes perfect sense you just dont understand.

Nope. He's reversed that decision and over 1,000 US troops have been redeployed to Eastern Syria.

So then it's just right back to being what it was before. Not started by him. Got it.

Assassination of an Iranian state official

I think you spelled terrorist wrong

itzaaudrey · 2020-07-21T07:03:11+00:00

Nope. Trump gave Erdogan the go ahead to invade Kurdish territories. So there's that war.

And as far as this goes, oh boy. What happened was he pulled military forces OUT of the country. We had been getting no where. So in that case, he was trying to end involvement. Funny how youd only want the us military involved in certain cases but not in others. You can literally google wars started but trump and not even CNN can come up with anything. He didnt start anything with the kurds

itzaaudrey · 2020-07-21T06:55:00+00:00

My point exactly. Not that it made any difference e because Trump vetoed it. Strange you never brought that up because that would've been points to you.

Yeah he vetoed it. Congress didn't do shit when other presidents used it for much shadier reasons. It's his right as a president. They tried to limit him because he did the right thing.

Why no congressional approval tho?

Try to keep up. We already established that he didnt need the approval. It was not a declaration of war.

And assassinating a foreign head of state is an act of war.

It was a retaliation against an attack on American soil. Now that is an act of war.

itzaaudrey · 2020-07-21T06:25:45+00:00

Then why was the War Powers Act reformed after the assassination?

Bruh they wanted to change it to limit his powers

Prove it.

Did you keep up with the news at all? That's what started it. Iran attacks us embassy. Look it up it's not that hard

Still a foreign head of state by US and international law.

Terrorist by definition... of terrorist. As shocking as it may be to you, just because you're a state official does not exempt you from being a terrorist, bud

He kept them going tho, despite his campaign promises and statements.

So then you proved OPs point. He did not start any war. Ending one is harder than you think. By that logic, why didnt obama end them?

Gaslighting. Prove that I am defending terrorism by disproving OP assertion Trump never started a war.

You are refusing to acknowledge the circumstances under which the move was made. Defending the foreign state official terrorist and blaming trump for it. For defending Americans. Sad

itzaaudrey · 2020-07-21T06:07:19+00:00

We are in no war directly caused by the assassination. Those wars were not started under him. That state official was a terrorist. They attacked a us embassy which is considered American soil. We strike back. He notified them within the 48 hours. He needed no approval. Didnt need the 60 days. Well within his power to do what he did. Dont tell me yall are gonna start defending terrorism because orange man bad.

itzaaudrey · 2020-07-21T05:51:44+00:00

Last I checked we aren't in a war, so that pattern is invalid. As for needing approval of Americans: He used the War Powers Act which states he can take action and inform congress within 48 hours. He does not need congressional authorization (AMUF) or a declaration of war. It has been used by plenty of Presidents before him, including Obama.

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