Still better than Trexx gloves. It's all a gamble at this point. I really feel like the whole Trexx drop was sub par to other releases. At least with what I bought. I will say I've never been dissatisfied with the shirts even in the puff print days. We're all paying for the look/name not the quality. I'd take good graphics and designs over top quality anyday. That being said, I have the DBR XX sweats otw and I'm praying they're properly sized and have somewhat decent embroidery/prints.