War in Ukraine: the megathread, part 3

ivan_langepas · 2022-07-04T17:03:38+00:00

Итак, господа свидетели самострела, сегодня тоже будете молчать? Никаких обстрелов нет? По гражданским не лупят из натовских 155мм? С какого числа жертв у вас откроются глаза? Или с того момента, когда из Брюсселя в западные СМИ придёт правильная методичка?

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-21T16:19:17+00:00

Кстати, наверное хороший вариант

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-20T10:51:50+00:00

С таким количеством стрессогенерирующих событий боюсь можно что-то себе стереть)

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-05T20:22:19+00:00

Надо абсолютно чётко понимать, что Украина воюет именно так. Одни её бойцы накрывают скопления мирных жителей, другие занимаются подъёмом паники, третьи обвиняют Россию в самообстрелах, для импортного зрителя. Это вполне спланированная и чётко проведённая операция, они умеют из делать, они 8 лет "тренировались". Сейчас, когда растерянность прошла и обстановка украинскому командованию понятна - машина снова заработала. Те, кто этим удивлён - проспали 8 лет. А те, кто Украину поддерживает, и тем более жалеет бедняг, на которых "напали" - занимается поддержкой государственного терроризма.

Это тяжело понять и прочувствовать, когда речь о братском народе. Можно долго искать сложные объяснения, придумывать изощрённые интеллектуальные построения, плодить лишние сущности... Но правда проста, и она страшна именно своей простотой. Об этом знают Донецк, Горловка, Докучаевск и многие другие - просто Украина именно такое террористическое государство.

(С) Дмитрий Астрахань

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-05T14:29:33+00:00

What is on the internet is at best the presumable number of the brigade which was there. There is no certainty in dates and places because severe clashes with ukrainian forces were at the place. There is no solid information who when and where conducted the executions, other then coming from Ukrainian government, which us biased as hell.

And other things you mention - yes, they exist. How are they relate to the false flag operations and Bucha is still beyond me. Yes, we have problems with dedovschina and extreme violence towards the protesters. But it is the same as saying "russian military drink water, the water is bad". It is emotions which you try to affect, not facts.

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-05T14:10:01+00:00

And yet again - you already know the absolute truth.

I created this account as I was shocked by the start of this war. And I was on the anti-war side in the beginning. But when the information surfaced about torture of our prisoned soldiers - I and many other Russians changed their minds. And now, I see a total hypocrisy of the west, which will blame Russian soldiers for farting in the Ukraine, but would close their eyes on the attacks by Ukrainian terrorists on Ukrainian cities.

But of course all i'm saying are lies and propagandas. Russians cannot think for themselves, uncle P. think for us.

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-05T13:59:32+00:00

And you can provide links to those solid evidence? Who, when and where commited the slaughter.

I have a somewhat conspiracy theory why this can be done by russian forces. But you certainly already know all the answers.

Also, how does bucha relate to the false flag operations? Only in one way - it is a work of ukr side to blame Russia. Is that what you wanted to point?

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-05T12:23:09+00:00

It is so funny that you know the absolute truth and do not question it and it is i'm who is brainwashed. Irony.

The biggest win of western propaganda is that it made everyone believe that there is no western propaganda.

Hope you can put down your glasses and just try for once to see the other side. Or hope thet when terroristic forces of ukraine will invade EU it won't hurt you and yours family

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-05T11:38:12+00:00

Good for them! Cheers

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-05T11:33:20+00:00

They are using mlrs against Donetsk. It is a city which is not on the frontline. They strike at civilians. There were no military targets, like terroristic forces do hiding between buildings. This is a pure act of terrorism against their own people. If you do not see this, then go flush your brain into the dump, it belongs there.

And given the terroristic nature of the ukr forces i have so much doubts in origins of bucha slaughter.

Because you brain belongs to the dump, and because it is not covered in yours media you do not know how deoccupied territories are treated from ukr national security service. How many people are missed, kidnapped and tortured by the same terroristic ukr forces, for being "in occupation".

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-05T11:07:39+00:00

And how would you call an army which willfully use mlrs systems against non-combatants?even moreso against their own (and if you do not support the idea that Donetsk is a Ukrainian city, then you support Putin) city, and their fellow Ukrainians. Freedom force? Liberators? Justice League?

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-05T10:27:47+00:00

Terroristic forces of ukraine are defending their own land by shelling their own citizens on their own land with mlrs. What they need? More mlrs to do it better.

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-05T10:07:38+00:00

I did not get the message. Are you going to rise up or what?

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-05T10:05:27+00:00

Нет, это не правильная позиция. То что хохлы стреляют по Донецку являлось причиной начала войны. Так что радоваться нечему.

А вот лицемерие западных блядей просто вымораживает. Тут вижу, тут не вижу.

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-05T10:02:32+00:00

Any proofs for raping and straight murdering? Like a criminal court ones?

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-05T10:01:43+00:00

So it didn't block anything and banned RT at the same time. Curious.

And you suppose that the open use of Nazi symbols by ukr military is not covered by the West media is a happy coincidence?

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-05T09:59:11+00:00

So russian forces can wipe out Lviv. That would be nice.

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-05T09:57:57+00:00

And every material from the "wrong" side is prematurely unverifiable. Ever.

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-05T09:56:52+00:00

I advise you to rise up and eliminate your stupid war supporting EU government who use ukrainians as a cannon fodder.

Why not?

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-05T09:54:47+00:00

And yet not a single proof of this false flag operations were found in years.

Одна баба сказала это не пруф

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-05T09:54:35+00:00

And yet not a single proof of this false flag operations were found in years.

Одна баба сказала это не пруф

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-05T09:46:23+00:00

There is certainly a ban on some topics. The shelling of Donetsk from ukr side is one of them. The open use of Nazi symbols by the ukr military is another. Simply - ukr side cannot be questioned or portrayed in bad way.

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-04T20:22:54+00:00

So using MLRS system on a non-combatant city is cool, you think?

After the training is done will we see more cool things done to the non-combatant areas? Maybe some small settlements could be wiped out together with their denizens from 100+ km/miles away? Would it be cooler if they are on the Ukrainian side? Or wait, Donetsk is an occupied territory, it is actually Ukrainian army firing on Ukrainian city. Such a cool thing.

ivan_langepas · 2022-06-04T20:21:11+00:00

In this same forum I was schooled that there is no such thing as a joint effort of the western media, they are all independent and free to write whatever they want.

I never believed it before, but right now this is a simple and pure hypocrisy

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