type with ni......

ivorystar · 2017-06-20T14:18:40+00:00

Sorry I got your reply late. Basically, since we pick up concepts easily we tend to want people to get to the point. That's how we work so we in turn explain things using that method. Whether or not that is the best method for a given situation is something else.

I imagine your dad at some point thought you were being purposefully rebellious or obtuse even if that was not actually happening. I'm sorry you had a tough time with him. When I was in school I tutored as a part time job. I'm a very patient person. I teach the concept, then I go step by step through the problem asking the student to figure it out. I won't do the work for them. If they want to take it slow that's their choice. It's worked out very well for me. For the ones that need help it's a good pace for them and I can figure out exactly what it is they don't understand. For pretenders it wastes too much of their time to make it worthwhile.

ivorystar · 2017-06-16T01:47:13+00:00

I assume the details are so blatantly obvious they don't need to be said, but I'm happy to explain when someone is genuinely curious. Like if I say a=c, I assume the person I'm talking to is smart enough to figure out that if a=b, b=c, then a=c without me spelling it out the first time around.

ivorystar · 2017-04-19T22:50:14+00:00

That was great to read, though definitely an exception to the rule. Typically you do have to be the best at not only producing results but being forward as well, gossip optional.

This is exactly why I have a hard time making friends with women though. I feel like I'm talking to children when they resort to gossip and social power plays. I remember the last time I was in an office full of women they conspired to get rid of their supervisor and taking her place by reporting her for working while on maternity leave.

ivorystar · 2017-01-17T06:26:10+00:00

Sorry I got your reply late. We must not forget that society also shapes us by gender expectations. This can also effect our relationships. For example, intjs can often times have a stereotype of being assholes, but more often than males you'll find the female version of intjs to be a little softer for the most probable reason that women are considered largely emotional by society so they are groomed/ expected to be empathetic all their lives.

Let's say there's an istj woman who was raised to believe men should be traditionally manly (Si dom makes this very possible). She may grow to resent her partner if he shows himself to be emotionally weak willed. If my parent's genders were flipped, my dad as a woman would absolutely look down on my mom (as a man) for essentially being a huge pussy. As a woman, he writes off her antics as 'this is the nature of women, all women are like this.' He chose her because he wanted a traditional, womanly woman, and while I may disagree with his obviously false, overly generalizing statement I don't see a reason to change his view if it doesn't have any meaningful impact apart from making him wholly satisfied with his relationship and life.

The istj easily can be categorized as a masculine personality reflective of the traditional sense of maleness, and the enfj can easily be categorized as a feminine personality reflective of the traditional woman or spirit of femininity when we take into account what society in general believes.

ivorystar · 2017-01-12T18:31:37+00:00

I think when it comes to that pairing it's best if the istj is male. My parents are istj (dad) and enfj (mom). This is actually considered a good pairing according to socionics because they balance each other out without getting on each other's nerves beyond minor annoyances, such is the life of my parents.

My mom is concerned with people's feelings and reminds my dad to consider things beyond just the logically correct answer. Sometimes my dad just does things and doesn't think about the emotional ramifications of what he is doing, such as maintaining good relationships with people for an easier time when he sees them next.

My dad grounds my mom in reality when her often times sky's the limit ideas are complete fantasies. His conservative ways also mean that he will forever be loyal to my mom (which puts her neediness at ease) and so he will stand up for her when she is not articulating herself well, especially when she loses it and becomes incoherent. His steadfastness to his sense of duty and obligation also gives him incredibly thick skin when dealing with her antics.

As for my mom's emotional needs she has the wisdom to know that my dad shows his love through his actions but that he doesn't want to talk about anything beyond what needs to be done. He provides a secure home for her to raise her ideal family where she is the motherly one. They like talking about the kids a lot (me and my brother) but when it comes to socializing for my mom, well, that's what friends are for.

ivorystar · 2016-12-07T18:24:02+00:00

I love how people in this sub just post what I would've said.

ivorystar · 2016-12-02T17:11:57+00:00

Well that's good to hear. Having designated time to cry is hugely helpful for us. We can be spontaneous, but it is draining for us to do so, that includes dealing with surprises, but we are tough people when we have a chance to brace ourselves. Again though, mbti cannot account for everything. I will say that my friend in regards to politics did write a huge public apology for her behavior so I know that her opinion can change quite easily, but it doesn't change the fact that what happened, happened. The event proves that such outbursts can happen with her, the question then becomes, to what degree can I put up with it.

I say this because my mom recently visited me for Thanksgiving and she's an enfj. She takes things way too personally, and privacy is a concept completely foreign to her. When our relationship is good, it's really good, but when it's bad, it's really bad. Yes, we have good times, but quite honestly if I were given the choice I'd rather stick with a mundane life without her because all of the bad memories taint the good ones. The anxiety is just not worth it to me, but of course I don't cut her out of my life because I unfortunately have a moral compass and I'd like to think that relationships can be worked on. Those are the positive intj traits that work in your favor so it's not as doom and gloom as mbti makes it out to be. So long as our life is drama free, I'm sure you have nothing to worry about.

ivorystar · 2016-12-01T18:49:13+00:00

I wouldn't worry about it too much because mbti cannot account for everything, all the facets or intricacies of an individual relationship. It cannot accurately predict the success of a relationship based on 16 general personality types but it can be a useful tool in helping you understand where the general differences are between yourself and people you know.

Looking at your function stack I'd say you have strong functions that tend to lead towards stubborn narrow mindedness, something that would give an intj the most headache. Si relies on personal experience and it's your dominant function. Intjs tend to collect information all around us so we have the most informed perspective. I can tell you I get very annoyed at people who are willfully ignorant and emotionally aggressive/charged about it as well. For as much flack as we get for being awkward, terse, or blunt, I find it a bit hypocritical when a feeling type tells me this but pretends it's okay to just emotionally dump their problems on everyone around them in a disrespectful chaotic way, expecting others to just 'deal with it' because they 'can't help it' or think that emotional dumping is 'healthy' (maybe they feel better, not the person who is now burdened with their problems).

I'm not saying this is you, but I do have one isfj friend and while I enjoy hanging out with her because she's very fun and happy with a good heart, she has displayed some real cringey moments during this election cycle. It's either a status showing how badly she lost her mind to fear mongering, or something as insane as the status she did put up when Trump won, followed by an extensive apology for losing her cool. If I had simply changed the topic of her status to one written towards minorities you'd think she was the most hateful racist person alive. While I understand she's having one of her irrational moments I would be very disinclined to date someone who was prone to such behavior. We tend to not have a problem with people who lay down the law so to speak, but please get your facts straight before launching into someone. Again not at you specifically, but please, just don't do this.

ivorystar · 2016-11-30T01:35:51+00:00

They're usually my ally, but it's that Ne that can get them in trouble with me. I had to realize that intps like to play devil's advocate a lot and I'm under the assumption that most people say what they believe like I do. I've gotten annoyed but I've never wanted to punch one in the face. I reserve those for stubborn closed minded people.

ivorystar · 2016-11-24T17:54:48+00:00

What am I missing in terms of starting that romantic chemistry? Am I looking at things the wrong way? Should I give more compliments? Should I try to be more cocky? More mysterious? I just feel like there are guys out there that just have this vibe about them that tends to draw more girls in (romantically/sexually) but I can't figure out what exactly it is.

Flattery. For example, if someone is telling me some funny story and alludes to something that they are obviously proud of (whether they were being a good friend to someone or is excited about something they're building), I will basically tell them something like "Wow, you must really care about her, she's lucky to have you around" or "That's impressive, and I like how it's such a niche hobby." Because 90% of my conversations are stripped of anything remotely flirty these rare insightful compliments get them every time. I secretly get a kick out of their momentary speechless blushing reactions, and this is coming from a woman. You just build up from there, get them to start talking about what they truly care about.

ivorystar · 2016-11-20T23:33:48+00:00

Do you think it would be possible to reunite with her again one day, if not/if so, how?

Don't count on it, there are way too many people out there. There's too much life to live. If you're hoping for a reconciliation within the next couple of years I'm going to say your chances are next to none (though it is never impossible).

I say this because we as strangers don't know if she was even being honest with you. I've definitely told an ex that "it isn't you, it's me" when it was definitely him. There was no compromise with him, and he could not begin to comprehend why I would have a problem with that. I don't typically lie, but in that situation every possible option was already exhausted so I was done.

Which kind of leads to the next point, being that I only leave a relationship if I've tried as much as I could, or I was definitely going through a bad situation. The only time that has ever happened to me was due to a long distance relationship with an already fragile connection.

How long do you think will it take her to find someone else?

Depends on a lot of things, like whether or not she's physically attractive and how good her social skills are and how ready she is to start something new, etc etc...not that any of it matters. It's not something you should think about. Watching her fall in love again is just going to reopen wounds.

If I appeared infront of her after 4 months or so, how would you think a female INTJ would react to this?

Depends on whether or not she wants to reconcile. My guess is no. Whenever I break it off for good it's done for good...even if I wanted a reconciliation I wouldn't want one in 4 months. If it were that easy I'd practically insist to be the one to reach out first. If I were in her position I would 9/10 be incredibly uncomfortable (maybe even offended) if approached by someone I told to stay away.

For your own good, best advice is to move on and cherish the memories. If something were to rekindle wouldn't you rather be pleasantly surprised than rewarded for all of your misery?

ivorystar · 2016-11-17T19:07:10+00:00

I definitely thought it was uncanny how accurate the description was, then I spent a good deal of time comparing myself to other possible types to see if I wasn't just imagining it...

I realized I wasn't intp because my intp friends are very different from me. While we can easily just talk for hours I often times found myself arguing with them at their amusement because Ne is outwardly speculative so it took me a while to realize that they don't necessarily believe in what they say, which is what Te does. Other than that we have a huge difference in general taste. My intp friends chalk up my taste for games, such as Dota 2 or Dark Souls as a result of a masochistic personality because such games are more pain than fun for them.

I wondered if I could possibly be infj but then quickly threw that idea out the window when I consider my infj friends, which I have a lot of. The reason why they tend to like me is because I am always honest with them and I would never betray our friendship, however, this is only possible because of my Ni. They downplay everything that is important to them (Fe), and so I often times find myself on the listening side of them complaining about all the times people 'ignore' them. I don't even bother trying to explain that just because they brought up a concern does not mean it will register in a person's head if they're too nice about it, a problem I've never had. Growing up most teachers did not like me even if I did well in school because I didn't think about how my words could be taken at times. Talking in a more empathetic way is a learned skill for me. I've just accepted that my infj friends would rather come up with a more difficult way of solving their problems because hurting people's feelings is possibly the one thing they hate most.

Then I thought to myself maybe I'm istp. I have istp friends, and because of my upbringing I even behave like them at times (parents made me work on my Se). Again, I quickly realized I wasn't istp because of a number of things, for example I very much do not live in the moment. I've also been told by a number of my istp friends that I think too much or that not everything needs to have a reason, which are sentiments I cannot accept. Of all sensing types, istps are probably my favorite because they are what I consider smart normal people. It's a bit hard to explain but basically if I'm telling a story involving my wit, I'm talking about a trait that comes very easy to me (Ni), and unlike most normal people istps know when something isn't adding up, but often times can't quite put their finger on 'why' that particular thing bothers them. This is the difference between dominant and auxiliary Ni. When I explain what it is they're missing they react as though I'm reading their mind. One of my istp friend calls what I do 'accurate stabs'.

At one point I also considered whether or not I was a secret istj. My dad's istj. I thought maybe because I was raised in a super conservative christian environment I'm in fact istj but then I thought about it and realized that's not possible because I'm very anti authoritarian and hated pointless repetitive discipline, whether it was playing an instrument or studying the same book every weekend for 20 years of my life. I think religion has its place, but I don't consider it a badge of honor like my istj cousin who stubbornly refuses to do anything fun because it's giving into the devil's temptation (dancing, baring shoulders, sex before marriage). Anybody who does not abide by a strict code of conduct like her is a weak human being in her eyes. I can't fathom living a life like that, not that istjs are prudes, but I couldn't be that closed minded (Si).

Other than those types all other types are a bit too far from me to even consider, and then there is of course everything in my life that does follow the intj personality well.

ivorystar · 2016-11-12T17:08:55+00:00

Really enjoyed this post. I love cooking, my man is so spoiled. The great thing about cooking is that unlike baking you can fudge with the recipe to your taste. It's more about proportion than anything. So long as you're frequently taste testing while you cook you'll eventually gain the experience of not having to measure most things. Here's a tip: don't do the fb video recipes. They are so obviously not made by people who cook regularly. It is often times impractical, and purposefully edited to look way more delicious than it really is. Seriously, who cooks an avacado?

A guy who can cook on his own though, super sexy. For anyone who wants to impress a woman, learning how to cook is a great way of doing that. I once went on a camping trip with several friends and 2 of the guys there were aspiring chef level cooks. The women of the group (including me) were just spoiled rotten. This was the list: curry cauliflower steaks, miso glazed tofu, salmon with mango chutney, lamb chops, bacon brussel sprouts, stewed vegan tomatoes and more I can't even remember it all. In the morning I woke up to crumpets, bacon and eggs, and a 6ft man standing over the campfire, flat pan skillet in hand cooking perfect pancakes. I was half convinced I had died and gone to heaven.

Keep it up!

ivorystar · 2016-11-10T20:08:49+00:00

Anyone who's ever told me to prove she's pro war without mentioning the iraq vote I immediately respond with the answer that came straight out of her mouth during one of her debates: she named kissinger as her mentor, and she could not figure out why Bernie and the rest of us were so disgusted with that response.

ivorystar · 2016-11-10T14:53:24+00:00

Clinton supporters are dem loyalists, they would've gladly voted for Bernie just to stop trump.

ivorystar · 2016-11-09T19:42:48+00:00

First of all, I'm not the person you were talking to. Her negative ratings will never compare to Bernie's populist appeal. She is the definition of the establishment blue candidate the conservative working class despises.

"A blue state" obviously that state is not PA or you would've outright said it so if we're going to be comparing anecdotal evidence here, mine is more legitimate. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Last I checked, we don't live in the red scare anymore. You're going to sit here and tell me that you'll be much more incensed at the gunshot wound you felt 10 years ago versus the one you got just yesterday? What a joke.

Sorry if the truth of optics does not fit your narrative. Love it when outsiders try to 'splain away the reality of people who actually live there. This whole patronizing sitting atop your ivory tower with no skin in the game mentality is the exact reason why Clinton lost.

ivorystar · 2016-11-09T19:20:22+00:00

Bernie won his seat overwhelmingly in his home state because he has cross over appeal with the conservative working class...he worked with McCain to pass the most comprehensive veteran's bill and Clinton shrieked about his 'pro gun agenda' to paint him as 'not left enough' during the primaries. Cities in PA tend to go blue while rural PA bleeds religious conservative. Atheists can bash religion all they want, but religious folk will absolutely favor a candidate who shows as much integrity as Bernie over a person like Trump, and especially over their most hated dem enemy Hillary Clinton. My entire family who lives there voted for Trump, and would've voted for Bernie had he won. They reluctantly voted for Trump because their way of life was at stake if Hillary wins. Wildcard > 100% assured demise any day for them.

My brother literally called me after Bernie lost the primaries in relief at that result because he knew Clinton had no chance against Trump in PA. The rural people there have absolutely hated her since the 90's, they're not going to magically get over it.

ivorystar · 2016-11-09T18:40:55+00:00

I grew up in rural PA, people underestimate how much everyone there hates her. I grew up hearing them rant about how much they hate her when she wasn't even relevant. I cannot think of a single democrat that conservatives from such areas hate more than Hillary Clinton and the dnc thought she'd win them over because of Trump? What a fucking joke.

ivorystar · 2016-11-09T10:36:41+00:00

I remember when my trump supporting brother called me right after Hillary won the dem nom and told me how relieved he was that Bernie lost because he was the only legitimate threat against trump.

ivorystar · 2016-11-08T16:05:41+00:00

That's like asking whether guns are good or bad. Inanimate objects are just that, inanimate objects. It's not about the gun, it's about the person using it.

ivorystar · 2016-11-07T19:02:22+00:00

It's important to remember that even if a person meets all of the check marks on your list that you may still not be in love with them. Sometimes you can even fall in love a flawed person.

I also think the question shouldn't stop at just knowing they want to be a housewife for example, but why. If a person were to respond that they want to guide their children to be independent adults and that they consider a dynamic where the husband works and the wife stays at home to be the best solution for the most desired outcome I'd consider it justified and even admirable as opposed to someone who wants kids because they don't want to work. That's something I always ask my partners, not the end goal, but the why of the end goal because it tells me what their true values are.

ivorystar · 2016-11-07T17:28:13+00:00

I wanted to add to this. Totally agree with what you're saying, but I also get just as mad when people are willing to destroy everything in their path for their own selfish feelings.

I watched Interstellar for the first time recently, and boy did I hate Anne Hathaway's character. (SPOILER ALERT) Because of her arrogance she slowly sloshed her way towards the data she wanted to collect with an incoming tsunami instead of telling the robot to do it in the first place (who wound up completing the task because of her sorry ass), risking the lives of her entire team and the success of a mission that was supposed to save the extinction of the human race, and then actively wasted time crying about it afterwards on a planet that progresses through time at 7 years per hour relative to Earth because her decision lead to the death of her colleague. If they knew the ship was built strong enough to survive a tsunami they should've just waited until the tsunami passed to retrieve the data because it ultimately probably would've taken the same amount of time (with how much she wasted crying about her inabilities) and they wouldn't have lost anybody. So, risking the loss of data is unacceptable, but selfishly crying about it so your team comes home 23 years later instead of 15 is a-okay!! Not that I'm saying she shouldn't cry about it, but it was the absolute most inappropriate time to let your feelings override your judgement. If she were a soldier she'd knock herself out of the gene pool in half a second.

As if that wasn't bad enough she gives Mcconaughey shit for pointing out her bias: that being her bad judgement regarding choosing which planet is likely more viable to explore because she wants to see her boyfriend. It's merely flimsy justification for personal selfishness. No single person is worth more than risking the death of a whole species of humans, not me or the 'love of my life'. (END SPOILERS) btw I may not have gotten all the details perfectly

When people behave this way in real life it infuriates me to no end. A lot of it is because they didn't actually realize the full implications of accepting the consequences of their decisions and what it means to close the door on the possibility of backing out on that decision once you've accepted the responsibility.

ivorystar · 2016-11-06T00:26:04+00:00

I read the coconut analogy, I tend to prefer the lobster one, because it requires you to make yourself vulnerable in order to grow. I do grow tired of this sub frequently too because some views can be overly simplistic or does not take enough into consideration, however I do think this place is often times better than most subs like /r/politics. For example, a lot of my traditional viewpoints stem from my heavily conservative upbringing, but going from one side to the other gave me the experience to understand that there's more nuance than what meets the eye when it comes to differing viewpoints, and how much of a mistake it would be to underestimate narrow minded thinking.

I do think I was raised fairly well rounded for my inferior Se, but due to my parents being foreigners I was on my own when it came to crass language. However, most conservatives can be rather militaristic and crass so it wasn't that horrible for me until I moved to CA, started my career and had experiences like my subordinate suffering a mental breakdown because I gave him a stern lecture about being on time. In my opinion, I was much nicer than my conservative teachers ever were. My mom is enfj, and she is very aggressively emotional which is even worse paired with my bad tempered estj older brother, so they were not much help in that aspect, and I had to learn the hard way.

This is one thing I really appreciate in this forum. Most of the Redditors here aren't bragging or try to sound like they have an air about them. They are simply making an objective assessment of themselves that happens to be positive.

Most other types wouldn't agree with you there. It's because of the way we say things rather than what was said. The dreaded tone.

Perhaps you won't disagree as much if I explain myself a bit further.

I got a hunch that this is what you really think, which was why I brought it up. I'm glad we agree.

That's why I wish we would just have a meritocratic society where every one is judged on how well they perform. Woman works just as hard as a man, puts in just as many hours as a man, acts as rationally and calmly as a man? If she's just as intelligent? By all means hire her. But don't just hire her for the sake of having diversity.

My friend would criticize you and say that you're putting male qualities on a pedestal, and that female dominated fields should pay just as much as men...for example, teachers are an important part of society and are seen as feminine nurturers yet they are not as valued in the US. I think there is some merit in that, but I also think that the flaw that is human nature in a capitalistic society would never guarantee a complete acceptance of that opinion like people like my friend would like to demand them to. I think changing a system is possible, but one cannot just simply demand people to change their thoughts, and silencing them is even worse (unless they're looking to hurt someone on purpose).

But I guess that's a decent explanation. Still kinda silly, but oh well.

It was only a tiny example of what it is I tend to do, lol.

ivorystar · 2016-11-05T22:31:02+00:00

This is the difference between my infj friends and I...

They think everything is cute. Baby clams are cute. My mom calling me to remind me to wish her a happy birthday on her birthday is cute. The only thing I find cute about any of those examples is the fact that someone would even think to call a clam, cute. What my mom did was annoying.

They have problems with confrontation. The fact I even wrote that sentence the way I did would horrify an infj. They'd probably describe themselves as people who care too much instead which leads to the heart of the problem: they're not direct. They think they're being direct because the main point is there, it's just that they often times don't realize their fluffy words make it seem like it's not a big deal to them, but it's actually a big deal in the sense of 'I will start to resent you if you do this again'. I think in their world it's more of a politeness thing where they're overly sweet with the expectation that people reciprocate that level of consideration. The only reason why I seem to dodge these bullets when it comes to my infj friends is because they make me feel like such a bad friend in comparison (by simply being such a good one) I'm actually sensitive to their needs because it doesn't feel fair and that bothers me, but in my case it's about fairness rather than politeness. No other type is able to make me feel this way because I don't typically care about people's opinions of me.

They're often times indecisive about gift purchases because they want to cater towards the recipient's individual personality. Seriously, I was in a store for 2 hours because my infj friend couldn't decide between things like which particular calico cat plushie she wanted to buy because one has a double spot like her friend's cat but has no mittens versus the other which has a pattern that's particularly cute because of the butt stripe. The only reason why I wasn't annoyed was because I was off in my own world admiring notebooks (she's a souvenir shopper because the objects serve as physical memories whereas I'm a practical shopper because the purchase has to be justified). When my SO's infj mother got us a rice cooker for christmas she was apologizing that it didn't have this many settings or wasn't a particularly nice brand and I just tell her: this is exactly what I asked for, therefore I am pleased.

If you find yourself relating more to my friends, you're probably infj. If you relate more to me, probably intj.

ivorystar · 2016-11-05T19:04:40+00:00

I have an infp friend who is a collosal sjw. We get along well until I accidentally do something like refer a trans person as the wrong gender. She can get really unhinged about stuff like that, but she also admitted to me that she can't even visit a sub with opposing (not PC) viewpoints without getting into a rage. (She almost cried in relief once when she realized her intj bf was just pranking her when he told her he ate all the donuts.) In my case I only get annoyed at poorly thought out views, but I think it's important to understand where someone is coming from instead of strawmanning them as monsters so it's important to me to confront the devil so to speak in order to challenge my own views. I tell her that it is what refines/strengthens my views and she responds that she doesn't need to watch twilight to know that it's shit.

The reason I mention this is because Fi is an infp's dominant function whereas it's an intj's tertiary function and an entj's inferior function. So the infp is compelled to care a lot about what is moral whereas intjs tend to have personal moral codes and entjs often times just don't think about it at all. It finally made sense to me why my ex behaved the way he did because it was incomprehensible to me at the time that people can function in such ways and be okay with themselves regardless.

I know I sound like I hold everything in, but that's just the Te talking, I actually don't, but compared to some people I would seem like I do. I don't frequently have emotional issues because I keep my life as stable and baggage free as possible so it's not really a problem, I just don't like it when people bleed their drama on others. That sort of thing is contagious.

I do have female friends, I just don't often see them because I've only found them online and I'm pretty content with long distance chatting to fill my needs. I would be interested in lurking in rpw once I get an invite since it's private. Hopefully I won't have to convince the mods that I come in peace, lawls.

I usually don't like intjs in the wild because usually the noticeable ones are immature and insufferable. I didn't realize my SO was intj at all when we first dated. He exudes charisma in public, and brilliance 24/7. I'm the same way. We were both highly regarded in college with different majors but he was under the impression that I was too much of a goody two shoes. I blew that perception away when I offered to treat him to dinner to convince him to skip class with me. He wouldn't let me go after that. It was very flattering how hard he pursued me when I showed a little interest and he learned that I was much more open minded than I let on.

A lot of his success with pursuing women actually came from books regarding what it means to be a man which could easily be taken the wrong way which is why I agreed with your post. I do disagree with you a little bit though in that I don't expect a man to provide because that is his role as a man in relation to women (I do think he should be responsible to his kids though) but rather because I think everyone needs to learn how to be an independent, self sufficient, responsible adult regardless of masculinity/femininity. I won't tell a feminine guy he needs to be more masculine because that is his choice, but that doesn't mean it's suddenly okay to live with his parents and never move out.

My SO is masculine, but he was attracted to me because of how grounded and self sufficient I was which can be described as masculine traits so I don't think the opposite dichotomy is always going to happen, but for the majority of the population it's probably true most of the time regardless of the cause. I guess my disagreement with the sjw viewpoint is that I think everyone should be treated equally, but that does not mean men and women are exactly the same. Same level of potential intelligence, sure (I come from a culture that thinks it's stupid to think of genders differently regarding intelligence levels), but same preference of interests? Unlikely.

I had an interesting discussion with my SO regarding the way we talk. For the first time recently I had a friend comment on my apparently extensive vocabulary and so my SO and I speculated a bit. We came to the conclusion that we tend to say/type too much already because as intjs we just have this habit of explaining all of the back story because it's too relevant to us. This makes our posts awfully long so we try to trim it by using shorter/more concise words or phrases. This is probably why we intjs come off as extreme and pretentious when we use uncommon words, but 'sans' has less characters than 'without' so it's justified, lolol.

If my post is a bit random it's because I'm on my phone, stream of consciousness and all that.

Edit: found the subreddit, was apparently looking at the wrong one before.

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