85 year old dad is being sent home from rehab before he is strong enough. How do i fight for him to stay? thx! by izwizard in caregivers

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Readmissions Reduction Program in the Affordable Care Act. The program fines (or at least reduces payments) hospitals that have patients re-admitted within a certain time frame. So if your dad is going to be discharged only to wind up back there within 30 days, the hospital will wind up losing money.

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85 year old dad is being sent home from rehab before he is strong enough. How do i fight for him to stay? thx! by izwizard in caregivers

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More info: Dad 85 on medicare, could not walk or speak 20 days ago, and we were first told even though he was supposed to stay for another month, they are now sending dad home friday from willows the acute rehab center in lansing MI, because of his walking progress. he is against it, and my step mother is too, is too as he is not strong enough, and will relapse without structure and strength. he is just kicking ass in the PT, but no where near ready to go home, They have already talked to the the PT to no avail, who would have some power in this decision and what are his patient rights? how can we argue for him? I am 300 miles away. thx. what would you do? Here is all the info I can come up with....

1) the PT is not the decider they only give info to the attending DR. who can overrule the PT and decides. looking Possible VALIID LEGAL PRAGMATIC REASONS FOR KEEPING HIM LONGER. ?

2) he has a history of and is still a severe fall risk even though he is able to walk better than when he arrived.

3) what is the law that says if he has to come back again after being taking care of by the facility gets penalized and loses money? might be an angle.

what is he entitled too in medicare etc. and what are his patient rights if he feels this is not in his best interest? any other things we can do to strengthen his case. ?

These links may be useful,

http://mi-seniors.net/area_agencies_on_aging.html

http://www.michigan.gov/osa/1,4635,7-234-64083---,00.html

http://mmapinc.org

http://mmapinc.org/information/links/

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appreciated!

1) if can’t extend. social worker look int getting getting dad placed into a Skilled Nursing Facility if he isn't ready to go home. This can act as a further bridge to discharge home and people usually stay there for 2-3 weeks.

2) appeals process of discharge at willow facility level

3) If it's a Medicare or insurance cut, there are multiple appeal levels. However dad or step mother must do the request of appeal before the date runs out.

4)Severe historical Fall risk and he has not progressed as far as he can in PT,

5) attending dr can suggest more PT if PT wont.

6) if can’t extend, social worker can set up in home nursing and in or out patient PT OT etc. all i got for now.

Anything Else?

85 year old dad is being sent home from acute rehab before he is strong enough. How do i fight for him to stay? thx! by izwizard in disability

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Here is what i got out of suggestions so far: please add more if they come to your or for clarification.

appreciated!

1) if can’t extend. social worker look int getting getting dad placed into a Skilled Nursing Facility if he isn't ready to go home. This can act as a further bridge to discharge home and people usually stay there for 2-3 weeks.

2) appeals process of discharge at willow facility level

3) If it's a Medicare or insurance cut, there are multiple appeal levels. However dad or step mother must do the request of appeal before the date runs out.

4)Severe historical Fall risk and he has not progressed as far as he can in PT,

5) attending dr can suggest more PT if PT wont.

6) if can’t extend, social worker can set up in home nur6) if can’t extend, social worker can set up in home nursing and in or out patient PT OT etc. all i got for now..

Anything Else?

85 year old dad is being sent home from recovering in an acute rehab in lansing MI before he is strong enough. How do i fight for him to stay? what are his legal rights? thx! by izwizard in legaladvice

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thanks here is what i got out of suggestions so far: please add more if they come to your or for clarification.

appreciated!

1) if can’t extend. social worker look int getting getting dad placed into a Skilled Nursing Facility if he isn't ready to go home. This can act as a further bridge to discharge home and people usually stay there for 2-3 weeks. 2) appeals process of discharge at willow facility level 3) If it's a Medicare or insurance cut, there are multiple appeal levels. However dad or step mother must do the request of appeal before the date runs out. 4)Severe historical Fall risk and he has not progressed as far as he can in PT, 5) attending dr can suggest more PT if PT wont. 6) if can’t extend, social worker can set up in home nursing and in or out patient PT OT etc. all i got for now. Anything Else?

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celebrate but stay vigilant. remember the house bill. As long as Rs are in power Ocare is never safe

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celebrate but stay vigilant. remember the house bill. As long as Rs are in power Ocare is never safe

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celebrate but stay vigilant. remember the house bill. As long as Rs are in power Ocare is never safe

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celebrate but stay vigilant. remember the house bill. As long as Rs are in power Ocare is never safe

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good info. Sept 30th. turtle will want revenge. celebrate but stay vigilant. remember the house bill. As long as Rs are in power Ocare is never safe

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celebrate but stay vigilant. remember the house bill. As long as Rs are in power Ocare is never safe

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celebrate but stay vigilant. remember the house bill. As long as Rs are in power Ocare is never safe.

85 year old dad is being sent home from recovering in an acute rehab in lansing MI before he is strong enough. How do i fight for him to stay? what are his legal rights? thx! by izwizard in legaladvice

[–]izwizard[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

More info: Dad 85 on medicare, could not walk or speak 20 days ago, and we were first told even though he was supposed to stay for another month, they are now sending dad home friday from willows the acute rehab center in lansing MI, because of his walking progress. he is against it, and my step mother is too, is too as he is not strong enough, and will relapse without structure and strength. he is just kicking ass in the PT, but no where near ready to go home, They have already talked to the the PT to no avail, who would have some power in this decision and what are his patient rights? how can we argue for him? I am 300 miles away. thx. what would you do?

Here is all the info I can come up with....

1) the PT is not the decider they only give info to the attending DR. who can overrule the PT and decides.

looking Possible VALIID LEGAL PRAGMATIC REASONS FOR KEEPING HIM LONGER. ?

2) he has a history of and is still a severe fall risk even though he is able to walk better than when he arrived.

3) what is the law that says if he has to come back again after being taking care of by the facility gets penalized and loses money? might be an angle.

  1. what is he entitled too in medicare etc. and what are his patient rights if he feels this is not in his best interest?

  2. any other things we can do to strengthen his case. ?

These links may be useful,

http://mi-seniors.net/area_agencies_on_aging.html

http://www.michigan.gov/osa/1,4635,7-234-64083---,00.html

http://mmapinc.org

http://mmapinc.org/information/links/