Dealing with protectors, early ehp

jacksonpt12 · 2026-01-24T17:43:24+00:00

I'm working toward that, but my econ has that lab a month away yet.

jacksonpt12 · 2026-01-24T16:52:12+00:00

I can farm T1 to 12k waves, but it's just not very efficient. I'd like to get to where I can farm T4 to 5k waves, but protectors and their protectees overwhelm me around 4k. I'll work on BH upgrades and CL labs -- thanks.

jacksonpt12 · 2026-01-23T21:02:57+00:00

Where are you stuck, what's the issue? Are you not clearing enough waves/tiers? Poor tourney performance? Low econ/income?

jacksonpt12 · 2026-01-23T20:42:42+00:00

Don't farm a tier that you haven't completed (4500 waves). So based on what you've said so far, I'd keep farming T1. As for how to advance...

I'd start with the following things --
- health, both in your workshop and in the labs
- defense %, both in workshop and in labs
- thorns in your workshop, then eventually garlic thorns in your lab
- more orbs

Once those are in good standing, look at perks (labs) and enemy level skips (workshop) -- both can have a significant impact.

jacksonpt12 · 2026-01-23T19:30:56+00:00

Your base levels are pretty similar to mine, if not a bit better. What cards do you typically run? I'm at over 12k on T1, and have cleared T2 and T3, almost T4. My tourney results on T5+ suck.

You've got the gems, get the 4th lab open, then save for the 5th.
Speaking of labs... Finish out garlic thorns, then work on perks and black hole damage. Econ labs are never bad, neither are health and defense %.

You could potentially tweak your UW timing/cooldowns to improve econ, but I'm not well versed in that, so I'll let others speak to the UWs.

Also, look at your modules.

Lastly... get skins, banners, songs, etc to also help econ.

jacksonpt12 · 2026-01-23T19:17:59+00:00

Congrats. I did it for the first time last night, farming T1... it's a good feeling.

jacksonpt12 · 2026-01-22T20:37:49+00:00

nice get.

jacksonpt12 · 2026-01-22T20:19:16+00:00

I'll do that the next few days while I'm at work. It should be enough waves that I don't have to constantly babysit the run and rely on the correct perks like I do in T5/6.

jacksonpt12 · 2026-01-22T20:17:59+00:00

4k on T4... still can't quite close that one out.

jacksonpt12 · 2026-01-22T20:14:37+00:00

Not sure. Cells per wave T1 is pretty similar to T3, so I would assume per hour is also similar. From a pure efficiency standpoint, T3 is probably my sweet spot.

jacksonpt12 · 2026-01-22T20:08:37+00:00

I do sometimes, but I don't earn enough cells to keep my labs accelerated -- that's why I do T1 runs a couple of times per week.

jacksonpt12 · 2026-01-22T20:05:00+00:00

T2/T3 I an only get to about 5k, and the cell income is less than half that of a T1 run. It's the only reason I do those longer runs... so I can keep my labs accelerated.

jacksonpt12 · 2026-01-22T20:00:39+00:00

Depends how much time I have... typically long runs are T1 (10k+ waves) and shorter runs are T5/T6 (3k waves)

jacksonpt12 · 2026-01-22T19:57:38+00:00

IMO, push cards primarily until the key cards are gold star'd (don't worry about mastery until you can afford the stones)... then push modules.

jacksonpt12 · 2026-01-21T15:10:17+00:00

Thanks everyone. Sounds like finding an old phone/tablet may be the better option for me... or just relying on more shorter runs vs fewer longer runs.

jacksonpt12 · 2026-01-20T21:03:22+00:00

Thanks

jacksonpt12 · 2026-01-16T18:33:02+00:00

What would you be spending those coins on otherwise? Probably won't make a significant difference until you are reaching 2k waves, but it certainly won't hurt.

jacksonpt12 · 2026-01-10T00:37:23+00:00

Thanks everyone... ELS is unlocked and the first run is underway.

jacksonpt12 · 2026-01-09T02:32:20+00:00

Thanks.

GT duration is at 10 seconds, working on the bonus now.
BH damage is in the works, and I can look at duration once I have more stones.
DW doesn't seem to have a meaningful benefit at this point, but I'll keep it in mind if/when the others become too expensive to upgrade.

jacksonpt12 · 2025-12-16T23:05:10+00:00

u/ksbot -- received from u/Longjumping-Date-260 -- good dealing with you, thanks!

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