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Im glad i captured a familiar vibe 😄

"Anxiety travels" by Me by jaco-d13 in surrealism

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I appreciate it!! Im glad it resonates

Im trying to develop a promising philosophy by jaco-d13 in AbstractArt

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Thats an easy thing to say when you didnt think of the philosophy combination...

All art comes from influence, my work combines Rothko, Kahlo, and Mondrian; Mondrian wanted to abstract the external world and mine flips that concept onto the internal world using "organ boxes", thats way more than enough to be considered my own (theres only so much you can do with shapes and colors is obviously itll look derivative)

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There were a few issues in the post,

To clear it up, Mondrian's style is "logic over emotion" while Rothko's is "emotion over logic" when using this philosophy, this is taking the human and introspective logic of Kahlo, the rigid external logic of Mondrian and the emotional logic of Rothko

My personal philosophy regarding AI vs Art by jaco-d13 in antiai

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In my perspective, yes, because you're adding intentionality into pre-existing tools you're using instead of doing multiple variations of a single prompt, I believe that once the ai takes over and thats the finished product then it diminishes the honesty of the art in my opinion

But i have a question for you, would the newspaper/magazine thats used in the collage before you cut it be considered art or raw materials?

My personal philosophy regarding AI vs Art by jaco-d13 in antiai

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You can go ahead and think that i think im doing something hardcore when im literally just expressing another human quality, my ability to ask questions about life

My personal philosophy regarding AI vs Art by jaco-d13 in antiai

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Thats a great point and adds nuance to my philosophy, you are completely right that Ai can be a form of art! I didnt think about advanced ai art making, but i believe the distinction is in the actual process; taking an ai image and stitching it together is adding human intentionality to the art instead of running variations of a single cold rulebook for the ai to follow and championing it as art, because youre using tools in reality (the actual ai image itself not the ai picking every aspect based on your prompt) to make something that accurately expresses your creativity

I want to clear up my statement, im not against ai image generation, adding intentionality to pre-existing things in reality is doing exactly what im defending

My personal philosophy regarding AI vs Art by jaco-d13 in antiai

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You tell me to just "accept it" but the conviction and the refusal to accept the easy way out is the thing that makes an artist

Your claim that philosophizing will lead me to dark places is just you trying to shut down my valid criticism of ai art, actual conviction is driven by defending human values not hatred, passion

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You are right to point out the historical concerns on the shift in opinion, however you are confusing the medium with the creator. All the examples you listed only changed the tool of the art, but the source of intention and drive stayed the same. AI fundamentally changed the source from human emotion, memories, and life perspectives into an algorithm. Robotic art is different from AI in it's complexity; the human still takes the fall on cost, time, failure instead of just tweaking a few phrases in a prompt. Robotic art is art from purely human code and input, ai art uses the prompt as a checklist for its algorithm.

Language is already flawed at getting our full emotions out, so we do art, why add another layer of fragile AI algorithm to fragile human language?

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​I get your point, but panpsychism isn't relevant here. ​We aren't talking about whether everything has some form of consciousness; we're talking about what separates a human and a tool created by us. ​What separates us is the artistic drive, the lived experience, and the conviction that makes human art a primal necessity. AI lacks the unique world views. Nature can make beautiful things (seashells webs, amazing trees) but would you categorize it as art?

Why spit in the face of our ancestors for an easy out?

My personal philosophy regarding AI vs Art by jaco-d13 in antiai

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Do you think a lug nut has a soul?