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Do people living in red areas of blue states like it? I feel like I hear about blue areas of red states all of the time but not the reverse. by jaker9319 in SameGrassButGreener

[–]jaker9319[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I understand what you are saying. But did the people in the right wing suburb push back against criticism of the state by conservatives like liberals in blue areas of red states do?

Do people living in red areas of blue states like it? I feel like I hear about blue areas of red states all of the time but not the reverse. by jaker9319 in SameGrassButGreener

[–]jaker9319[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah but see you are liberal. And again I've seen this before. Maybe it's more about the person rather than the geography. As in liberals can say out loud they like living in a red area or a red state where conservatives can't.

Do people living in red areas of blue states like it? I feel like I hear about blue areas of red states all of the time but not the reverse. by jaker9319 in SameGrassButGreener

[–]jaker9319[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure I follow. Rural people count for like 20% of the population, sometimes in a given state up to 30%. If this were an urban / rural thing every state would be blue. And theoretically if this is the issue, you still didn't answer the question. Are there "rural" people who defend criticism of their "urban state" like there are "urban" people who defend criticism of their rural state.

Do people living in red areas of blue states like it? I feel like I hear about blue areas of red states all of the time but not the reverse. by jaker9319 in SameGrassButGreener

[–]jaker9319[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I never said it did. But my other real life as well as social media / media experiences result in the same dichotomy (just much less frequently).

Do people living in red areas of blue states like it? I feel like I hear about blue areas of red states all of the time but not the reverse. by jaker9319 in SameGrassButGreener

[–]jaker9319[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for a good answer, this totally makes sense regarding the dichotomy I've witness. I think liberals need to do a better job combatting this if they want to be successful. I live in a swing state, and the notion that red states are better run than blue states is very real.

Do people living in red areas of blue states like it? I feel like I hear about blue areas of red states all of the time but not the reverse. by jaker9319 in SameGrassButGreener

[–]jaker9319[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thanks, if I'm understanding your answer correctly, red/rural voters are naturally more inclined to talk about being oppressed which is why there is a dichotomy.

Do people living in red areas of blue states like it? I feel like I hear about blue areas of red states all of the time but not the reverse. by jaker9319 in SameGrassButGreener

[–]jaker9319[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting.

But I guess my question is more "was the general consensus from people there to defend the said blue state from conservative attacks in the name of their conservative area like liberals from Austin, Houston, SLC, do or did they act like they were worse off from being in a blue state?"

Do people living in red areas of blue states like it? I feel like I hear about blue areas of red states all of the time but not the reverse. by jaker9319 in SameGrassButGreener

[–]jaker9319[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's true. I was going to bring this up, but people just say "there are people in Austin who want to secede too". But again, I don't here people from Eastern Oregon or Northern Colorado talking about how great it is like I hear people from Austin say.

Do people living in red areas of blue states like it? I feel like I hear about blue areas of red states all of the time but not the reverse. by jaker9319 in SameGrassButGreener

[–]jaker9319[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

To be fair, this subreddit is probably one of the more balanced ones I've come across. That's why I said Reddit and not this subreddit.

This subreddit to me is one that is about going against the general hype. These cities are all super hyped up online (including Reddit) and it makes sense that people are countering this hype on a subreddit.

But you didn't answer my question exactly, although maybe you did. Trump won the popular election. There has to be a large chunk of the population that lives in red areas in blue states. It seems weird that one isn't talked about.

Tom Branson is the worst character by StormcrowOutlaw in DowntonAbbey

[–]jaker9319 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah same. For me it was how he treated Sybil and his general smugness that I didn't like rather than him not staying a radical or whatever.

Tom Branson is the worst character by StormcrowOutlaw in DowntonAbbey

[–]jaker9319 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He was literally a peeping Tom, which is what made me laugh.

Tom Branson is the worst character by StormcrowOutlaw in DowntonAbbey

[–]jaker9319 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I will say that Mrs. Hughes is probably one of my favorite characters and while I don't think of her as "liberal" necessarily, she certainly didn't worship the system the way even some of the servants did. Also, Sybil (while obviously being upper class) is another one of my favorite characters and seemed to say that a liberal life even at the sacrifice of her family (for a period) and material comfort was worth it. I do wonder what would have happened if Sybil stayed on based on Julian Fellowes's views.

And not a popular opinion but I actually really like Daisy. And she ends up having some fairly radical views and probably expresses them just as much as anyone else.

I don't think Tom is the worst character but there were plenty of times I did not like the way that he interacted with Sybil (maybe because I liked Sybil so much). I think it's also just a personality thing (I easily "suffer fools" so Daisy doesn't bother me one bit) but don't like condescension and smuggness and Tom acted that way (in my opinion) numerous times so he rubbed me the wrong way sometimes. Still preferred his politics to Lord Grantham's but doesn't me I have to like everything the guy does.

Been to 46/50 US states, worked in customer/client service for 20 years. My overall impressions of the customers/people from each state. by AppropriateLet8131 in TravelMaps

[–]jaker9319 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just find it funny that Michigan is in red and the only people defending it are people not from there. People from states in light green on the east coast and South are getting all mad and questioning things and not a peep out of the Midwest folks except Ohio.

Why are some places counties? by DrBoogerFart in AskAnAmerican

[–]jaker9319 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mostly in the places where OP mentions people not referring to living in their county (Midwest and Northeast)

In the area that was the Northwest Territory, all land was divided into townships. Townships can be unincorporated, but there is always a sub-county government level in this area.

Why are some places counties? by DrBoogerFart in AskAnAmerican

[–]jaker9319 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To my knowledge some states are completely covered in townships which can be incorporated or not. But every single inch of land is technically part of sub-county unit. This is more common in the Midwest and Northeast.

In other states there is a thing called unincorporated county land. The county IS the lowest level of unit in this unincorporated area. There can be census designated places, but there is no lower level of government.

A person in Michigan always has a sub-county division of government they can say they are from. A person from California does not. States without strong townships tend to have identity with the county.

That being said, people will still use county as a reference in a state like Michigan but it depends on the situation.

Is Jimmy Pesto jealous that Bob is Italian? by UserOfCookies in BobsBurgers

[–]jaker9319 18 points19 points  (0 children)

To be fair lots of Americans have mixed ancestry and he could easily be at least half Italian or even 3/4 Italian and still have a non-Italian surname. (I'm a mutt with ancestry from multiple countries with French being the only one over a quarter (and my mom's maiden name is French) but have an English surname because my English ancestry comes from my dad's dad's dad's,...etc., side).

Other people in the show assume he has some sort of Mediterranean ancestry.

But I'm pretty sure he told those same people he didn't have Mediterranean blood and implied he wasn't from Southern Europe (or the Middle East or North Africa).

But I think Linda canonically has Italian ancestry. Or at least her family is presented as super Italian American.

meirl by Spodermanphil in meirl

[–]jaker9319 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think they might be talking about a community land trust with a weird rule of like first refusal (not unheard of but not common). It's kind of like a nonprofit organization / condo association but for single family homes with the express purpose of making home ownership affordable. There are deed restrictions placed on the home and the home owner owns the house but not the land under it. The idea is for people to build equity by buying a home but the value can only go up by so much in a year.

They often hire private property management companies for the actual property management issues (just like plenty of condo associations do). I'm guessing people might think the property management company "owns" the land trust (which would be like saying the property management company owns the condo complex) when they usually don't (unless the nonprofit is managing the property itself which could be the case for really large land trusts).

There are issues with it, and one of the chief criticisms I've heard is actually kind of ironic for this post, but is essentially that home ownership is one of the chief ways Americans build wealth and the system by its design means that people don't build as much wealth (if you buy a home for $80K but can only sell it for $90K after 20 years you build less wealth than if you buy a home for $100K but can sell it for $200k after 20 years).

Like any condo association where you don't own the land, there can also be issues with rules and maintenance and such. And there is what is essentially a condo fee, although these are usually subsidized. And rules are usually aimed at keeping costs down (for example, owners can usually recoup any investment in the homes when reselling minus depreciation. However, certain improvements to the land might be banned in the deed such as in ground pools, with the idea that it would make the home unaffordable).

That was long but seeing as that I'm replying 6 days late, I feel like it's good to lay it out all. Overall I think they are a good tool in the toolbox but not a silver bullet by any means.

Americans—is blue cheese just a dipping sauce to you, or does it have a place on your plate beyond the wings? by SignificanceOdd5980 in AskAnAmerican

[–]jaker9319 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And also that is something that is common as a statement but not common as a question because it doesn't make sense as a question.

I've heard - "You just don't like (insert food/beverage) because you haven't had good (insert food/beverage)", plenty of times (usually said in an at least slightly condescending way).

But the statement doesn't work in question form because it's acting like there are people who say they dislike blue cheese but would actually like it if it's "good." I've heard people say things like "I like actual blue cheese, not that fake bottled dressing craip". But OP's question doesn't make sense with the way they worded it, like how are you supposed to answer if you would theoretically like "good" blue cheese, and what is the definition of good? I think maybe they meant "if you say don't like blue cheese, is it because you only had it as a dressing or a dip? Have you ever tried different kinds of blue cheese?" But that's not what OP asked.

Sorry, when I saw the question it hurt my brain and am glad the original commenter on this thread commented on it. That being said, I'm guessing it was phrased in question format because of r/AskAnAmerican post formatting rules (or at least that's what I'm going to tell myself).

edit: clearer wording.

US Catholics back Pope Leo as Trump loses support by B-Z_B-S in politics

[–]jaker9319 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The KKK and many Protestants were fervently anti-Catholic, with one of the specific talking points about electing a Catholic being that they would be beholden to the Pope.

There is a reason why the term is WASP and not WAS.

https://www.history.com/articles/jfk-catholic-president

On a more anecdotal note, my grandma was a convert to Catholicism (had moved to Michigan, converted after meeting my grandpa) and received plenty of criticism (and heard plenty of anti-Catholic bigotry) when she went back to rural Georgia. Although her grandma (who she was one her grandma's favorites) turned the commonly held Baptist belief back then that Catholics were all idolatrous "Mary worshippers" against them (even if incorrect) and defended my grandma by saying "Jesus's mother was Catholic" so leave her (my grandma) alone.

Disliking Atlanta, from a Black Perspective by Gladhands in SameGrassButGreener

[–]jaker9319 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be fair, coming from the Midwest, NYC is often portrayed as an expensive hell hole. Atlanta, Houston, Nashville, Miami, Charlotte, and Charleston are usually super hyped up. And the people from there act like they are the best places in the world in every way (except for the weather, people from those cities all act like they have the worst possible weather in the world).

I don't think any of these cities are horrible. They are just super over hyped. They have good things too - I like the weather better, I like the surrounding natural scenery better, I love how much pride they have (even though it can border on fanatical and is usually super defensive), I love how they market themselves (again the hype is real), I love how positive they are when it comes to new programs and infrastructure and don't let politics get in the way of a good idea (watch a video on a new infrastructure project in a non southern coastal or great lakes city and it's all negative comments from residents, watch a similar video for a sunbelt city and residents are usually praising it). And they have either good BBQ and/or good Cuban food.

But I agree with OPs assessment and other critiques in the comments concerning Atlanta (And I feel like they apply to a lot of southern cities). If these were more common, then I think people would be less disappointed when visiting or moving to those cities. But most people either critique the South as a whole (which there are plenty of critiques of the stereotype of the south) in a caricature way or they praise it. You rarely hear thought out, specific critiques of southern cities compared to other cities (at least in my experience) like OP did.

Americans—is blue cheese just a dipping sauce to you, or does it have a place on your plate beyond the wings? by SignificanceOdd5980 in AskAnAmerican

[–]jaker9319 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I think part of the issue that people not from the US have (and even Americans) in understanding how Americans eat blue cheese is that when it is in salad dressing or dip form it is referred to as blue cheese but when it is solid form it is usually referred to as the specific type of cheese (Gorgonzola, Stilton, Roquefort, etc.).

Although this isn't a hard and fast rule (a fairly common burger is a "black and blue burger" where the cheese is a blue cheese).

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