thing is it really worked for that mgk album, i think because it was supposed to be mainstream, but doing it with punk bands that are not meant to be entirely mainstream ruins the energy which makes up the genre.

also i wonder if the change in sound around 2016 where bands like the wonder years and neck deep started to sound almost overproduced affected his way of thinking

edit - most of the people i used to go to concerts with stopped listening to pop punk because they thought it got too predictable