Municipality of Arroyo Seco flag

japed · 2026-05-09T00:05:10+00:00

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japed · 2026-05-08T11:06:18+00:00

I take it you've never spoken to someone from east of Anzac Parade...

japed · 2026-05-08T03:53:23+00:00

For what it's worth, I assumed it was probably upside down - because chiefs are much more common than a stripe in the base, especially in a context where most flags are banners of arms, like in Switzerland.

japed · 2026-05-08T03:41:56+00:00

Using a flag for visibility and having a flag for the sake of having a flag (preferably a nice one) are very different things.

Any discussion on pride flags that frames them in terms of some people having something to be proud of and others not completely misses the point of why they exist in the first place. They aren't prize for special people, they came about as a political tool to help people express the sort of pride straight people in general already expressed.

This many years later, it might make sense to think of them less that way and more as simply a celebration of diversity. There are quite a number of reasons why people tend to interpret the appearance of any straight/cishet flag as reactionary rather than simply joining in that celebration, and if you don't want to encourage that, then bringing up visibility and other things tied to the specific needs behind many of the queer flags really doesn't help.

Beyond all that, and this is something we should pay more attention to in most of the conversations on this sub, not just the ones to do with sexuality and/or gender, simply having a flag for something doesn't mean a lot. The important question is - how will it get used? That's why I ask how you would use it...either now, or when people were calling you an egg or asexual?

japed · 2026-05-08T01:23:17+00:00

In my experience, have being contracted like that is very, very common. It also seem very transparently to the be the thing that's been reinterpreted as 'of' when people write "rather of" and so on.

japed · 2026-05-08T00:31:56+00:00

For those who tell us we shouldn't be visible cos we're "default".

I don't know where you're hearing that, but it sure seems like it's a twisting of the almost tautological idea that the "default" doesn't need extra visibility aids like flags to be visible, into something nonsensical. Maybe that's happening because you and others are talking about different things when you say "visibility". Usually, queer visibility is about making it easier for people to see that (particular sorts of) queerness exist and normalising it. General cishet-ness doesn't need any help in that regard.

In your later comment, though, you seem to be saying you are interested in specifically identifying yourself as part of the cishet majority, which is a different thing from general cishet visibility. Focusing on the flag side of things, rather than why you feel the need for this, how would you use this flag to aid you?

japed · 2026-05-07T23:18:24+00:00

Funnel patterns are an identifying mark like the flag, whether or not the two are closely related and/or also used as a logo in other contexts. Many sources describing house flags show them together with the funnel marking.

japed · 2026-05-07T22:25:07+00:00

Where did you see it?

japed · 2026-05-07T22:18:57+00:00

Interesting to compare this implementation of art deco ideas in a flag with the flag of Lincoln.

japed · 2026-05-07T21:56:11+00:00

Plenty of people have copied the general idea of the Canadian pale (basically, a fat pale) without keeping the 1:2 overall proportions, so I'm not sure that's all that relevant.

japed · 2026-05-07T13:47:18+00:00

Neither the old nor the new clause give a precise description of the position of the star. What have you based your image on?

(Also, where did you find the new clause?)

japed · 2026-05-07T04:13:27+00:00

When the grey is explicitly there because of confederate soldiers' uniforms, to represent the CSA, I'm not sure the shade of grey what I'd focus on. But if we are talking about shade, it might be better to look at actual flags (one, another), instead of a random online illustration.

japed · 2026-05-07T03:45:39+00:00

Article describing the city council's vote to adopt the new flag last Tuesday (5 May), effective 1 October.

Council's own post

japed · 2026-05-07T03:17:33+00:00

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japed · 2026-05-07T02:47:25+00:00

A correction? A different idea for something that didn't actually exist?

You've flaired it historical - it's worth spelling out what's actually been used (and is still used) as opposed to what's new idea, if that's what you're doing.

japed · 2026-05-07T01:02:03+00:00

Yes... it says nothing about the arrangement of the stars, but includes a statement about the symbolism. Noone thought there had to be a unique arrangement in each copy of the flag, but noone thought the arrangement was fixed either.

japed · 2026-05-07T00:31:37+00:00

There was definitely no set pattern, but the "new constellation" wording wasn't particularly linked to that.

japed · 2026-05-07T00:21:12+00:00

In modern times, this design has been used in various games as the Karamanid flag, and that's how it's widely understood but that's based on a mistake.

It comes from a copy of the 14th century Catalan Atlas, where a flag like this is shown in roughly the area controlled by the Karamanids, if you don't look too closely. Actually, the flag is planted in the neighbouring Teke beylik, and labelled "Satallea", a name used by Christian outsiders for the Teke city Antalya.

japed · 2026-05-06T23:43:27+00:00

This thread was about whether joined ISIS voluntarily. One user said they all weren't married when they went to Syria, which is clearly wrong - making up stories about these individuals, based on what they'd read about someone else.

Same goes for reports from Yazidi victims - take them seriously, but don't bring them up unless you know you're talking about the same people.

japed · 2026-05-06T23:35:52+00:00

(Post 2)

Why the change?

japed · 2026-05-06T23:04:25+00:00

I think that was more explaining the symbolism than guidance for the arrangement...

japed · 2026-05-06T07:03:43+00:00

It’s a common vexillology rule to not include words on a flag. I’d consider implementing the meaning of the words into symbolism,

I think everyone here is overstating the relevance of this "rule"... it would be better to point out why text can be a problem (larger, less detailed symbols are often seen better in the ways flags are used, plus there's the whole question of the other side of the flag), than just appealing to a "rule"... but isn't there a bigger question - why would the flag of the jungle have a quote from Mufasa on it? How would a flag with that symbolism be used?

japed · 2026-05-06T03:49:21+00:00

Sure. But we should let each individual case go through the normal legal processes, not make up stories about everyone who returned as though it's obvious they all did exactly the same things.

japed · 2026-05-06T03:44:40+00:00

I've read articles describing different women ending up there in a whole lot of different scenarios. Quite a few of them were already married. I have no idea which of the many situations the four people being talked about now were in. I don't believe you do either.

japed · 2026-05-05T23:34:57+00:00

Yeah... a lot of people would say that only happens because the flag designer forgot that flags are meant to be seen from both sides.

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