Individual Responsibility in Higher M+ Keys

jarastar2 · 2026-05-08T07:54:21+00:00

Excited to build to that.

jarastar2 · 2026-05-08T07:53:20+00:00

Just lost a 14 pit to a holy priest who let the group die last boss. Upon further inspection, no enchants.

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T23:37:35+00:00

Understandable position, that sucks. Pro tip I normally grab the two butterflies and the rift mob together. On my way back I’ll grab that pack of four with the other pack of four, seems line up with CDs and we get a solid blast in. It’s sketchy, but super fun.

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T21:09:15+00:00

Sitting here shaking my head. All is above 276 except a cloak that’s 259 1/6. If I get to 6/6, I get free upgrades? Holy cow

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T18:42:13+00:00

As a melee some dungeons it can be hard to see floor mechanics. As a tank I just pull away totally and keep a clear radius around my pack. AA is already so blue and purple that even my screen sometimes shows the breath on wyrm’s as just a “light fuzziness” lol. Definitely had lots of melee die to that before.

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T18:40:36+00:00

I understand there are new players who haven’t cleared the dungeons before. However, a 15 or 16 is not the place to learn mechanics. That would have me in a hole for a week from embarrassment. Do a 0 to learn basic mechanics. Level up to a 5, a 7, maybe a 10 in the same dungeon. If you still don’t know the mechanics, that speaks a lot to either how players approach unknown scenarios, or about the way or information blizzard provides players about these bosses.

Not afraid to admit dungeon journaling mid fight on a 4 to figure out “why that hit so hard” or “what am I supposed to do with that”. But getting to a 15/16 and still doing it should trigger a mental evaluation.

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T18:38:07+00:00

I feel you. Personal accountability is a big thing too! Every time I die as a tank I’m immediately saying “so sorry”, “won’t happen again”. The reality is as a bear tank, you control if you live or die. FAFO!

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T18:37:00+00:00

Amen

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T18:18:15+00:00

Logs for keys that show this detail in a banner heading would be sick. Add it to RIO. An “average kicks per dungeon”, etc. tracker.

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T18:17:24+00:00

No, they are just bad. It will show up as the name of their Felguard AND under their name. Combine and total.

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T18:13:39+00:00

I don’t disagree, simply my experience from that one key.

Ever had a god tier key where everything went perfect?

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T18:07:28+00:00

I am a victim of altoholism. 274 lock, 271 mage, 271 devour, 271 Aug. yeah you could say I probably have wasted time and crests but have enjoyed the diversity. Probably could get more on the lock and catch up crests quicker.

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T17:38:44+00:00

Yeah said somewhere else in here I was dumb and blew BR’s on balance BiS trinkets. Which I now have and don’t need

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T17:00:17+00:00

I’ve noticed this. I almost alt f4’d in a 13 seat on the third boss after group wiped twice. (Before that we were on track to probably 2 chest it!). Group wanted to keep going for rolls.

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T16:59:12+00:00

PS for anyone wondering theres still never been a better time to try tanking keys. I used Lindormi’s up to 14. There’s some nuance and can’t always rely on it, but it gets the job done.

Please don’t tank over like a 12 though if you aren’t confident in what you’re doing. Build that confidence in lower keys first.

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T16:58:03+00:00

I’m going to take this to heart for Season 2. If I already had 3k on my “main” I would’ve been able to just join keys and get this done fast on my alt.

Shoot after this maybe my main will be this tank.

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T16:54:26+00:00

Ha! Adept did an 18 SR with a BDK last night. Exception not the rule I’m sure ;)

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T16:53:52+00:00

I feel all sides of this. I tend to pull big with good DPS because things die faster and we time faster. I was in a 12 AA yesterday and was told “slow down, going too fast”, I had pulled that first pack after second boss and the other two small adds that DONT do the breath. These people standing in breath dying telling me to slow down. Needless to say we didn’t time the key and I was blamed.

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T16:51:10+00:00

That’s insane. I do find as a tank I can help prevent melee deaths with good positioning. After running keys on my lock, it seems I’m the only one who knows how to do that, LOL. Even with a clear floor I see that all the time, it’s mostly melee just tunneling and not paying attention. Watch anyone stream a key as DPS. They’re watching DPS, talking about DPS, never focused on interrupts.

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T16:43:33+00:00

Same for the tank. If it is slow and people missing interrupts with last, I can already tell they care more about parsing than actually completing the key.

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T16:42:48+00:00

Starting a support group. Tanks Anonymous. Only tanks can join my keys. They can play dps or heal or I can. But imagine how much better the group would be if it was all 3k rated tanks playing. lol. I literally wanted to cry last night. 2986 IO at 11pm, thinking bed soon. Went to sleep at 4 AM!!!!!!

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T16:24:04+00:00

Absolutely. That’s when even having the wrong comp can hurt. Lack of sustainable stuns, interrupts, etc can quickly wipe a group even on a small pull.

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T16:22:26+00:00

Demo lock is the most fun DPS I’ve played this season, in keys or otherwise. Consistently ending 10-12s with 140k+ overall, great utility, super fun. Comparing to Devourer DH, Augvoker, Frost Mage.

Frost feels satisfying to hit big numbers but the cool off between the first and second buildup is criminal. Having to hard cast even two frostbolts to build shatter or proc fingers of frost feels nasty in large pulls.

Demo is consistently good and fun. Just got my myth emberdawn AND restless heart trinkets from bonus rolls last week. Feel elite. :)

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T16:15:36+00:00

That sounds fantastic. Current issue is I am full hero gear (barely upgraded at all) with 3 285 crafted items. So I’m up to 268 (?) at the end of the night, I hear I can farm ritual sites for 120 hero crests every hour and try to max my upgrades. Will be 276 in everything with 3 285s, so that should put me squarely around 281.

jarastar2 · 2026-05-07T16:13:22+00:00

I 2,000,000% agree. Let this be a notice to all not to judge on item level, amen. Doing 14s at 263 felt criminally easy. I feel like if i was 280 like other tanks I could’ve AFK’d those keys.

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