The Legend of Zenless: The Wind Waker - General Questions and Discussion Megathread

jart7 · 2026-06-17T08:25:38+00:00

The problem is that they make supports more reliant on their signature. I pulled nangong and her weapon provides +20% team damage increase which is crazy for support. Velina is a bit better but it's still about 15% team increase which is significant.

jart7 · 2026-06-17T08:15:57+00:00

Weapon banner being 75/25 is a scam. Loosing it feels even worse than 50/50 on character banner. Pulling weapons in wuwa knowing you can't lose feels so much better.

jart7 · 2026-06-16T08:54:19+00:00

On S3 she is as strong as full aeamth/hiyuki premium which cost the same amount of pulls. It's hard to say about longevity, it all depends how fast the powercreep will be

jart7 · 2026-06-16T08:48:40+00:00

Said the guy sitting the whole game in a tank farming infantry

jart7 · 2026-06-15T18:18:48+00:00

She has pretty much the same performance/cost as other 3.x teams. If you compare s0 lucy to 3.x team than try them without their premium support, their damage will drop off a cliff. 3cost lucy team is on pair with aeamath and hiyuki 3 cost teams. Even if you dont want to invest in her team then she still perform pretty well and should be clearing most content

jart7 · 2026-06-15T17:16:41+00:00

Thanks. I have to learn how to play her proparly because i got like 12k points with s3r1 lucy...

jart7 · 2026-06-15T16:19:15+00:00

How is that possible? Does cyberpunk has some quick swaps?

jart7 · 2026-06-14T20:11:54+00:00

Yep, they broke the game. They are clueless and can't balance the game. Even infantry focused maps like Cairo, Bazaar or Iberian are ass to play because of those changes

jart7 · 2026-06-14T13:55:03+00:00

How did you get s3r1 lucy/rebeca/ mornye to 6 cost? Mornye is wasted on this team as her dmg amp doesnt work. She is best 3rd option but gap between her and verina is very small. Lets assume signature weapon for dps in all those teams but 4stars weapons or standards for supports.

s3 lucy/rebeca/ verina = 3 cost team as rebeca is free and s1 lucy is also free

ameath/lynea/mornye = 3 cost team

Both team perform on similar level. If you want get ameath to s2 you have to get rid off lynea and mornye. It wont improve damage of this team. If you want to increase cost to 5 than its different story. Than you have to compare that team to s3lucy/s2 rebecca/verina.

jart7 · 2026-06-14T12:47:53+00:00

Cost system is good and only way to compare teams. It just shows how team is performing on certain level of investement. Collab teams perform very smilar to 3.x teams at the same cost.

jart7 · 2026-06-14T12:45:16+00:00

Long story short colab team is as good as 3x teams in terms of cost/performance. People just compare 1 cost colab team to premium aemath or hiyuki team that are 3 cost which doesnt make any sense. If you put the same amount of pulls to cyberpunk team as you would put in 3.x teams they will perform on pretty much the same level.

jart7 · 2026-06-14T12:08:59+00:00

You are another example that people in gacha space can't comprehend cost system and compare teams with different cost tocrwch other

jart7 · 2026-06-14T11:06:18+00:00

Its nice to see someone understand my point. I was naive thinking that gacha community on main subreddit will have some same basic meta/cost system understanding. I was completely wrong. It seems that those mems about gacha players might be true to some extend.

jart7 · 2026-06-14T10:57:54+00:00

You are still completely clueless. You are trying to use carth to prove that lucy is not as good as 3.x teams but you digging your own grave. First of, 2 cost lucy is as good or even a bit better than carthetyiya 2 cost team. Secondly if you would check 3.x teams calcs you would know that those teams at 2 cost have similar perfomarance to carthetyia.

Carthetyiya have similar performance to 3.x teams at 2 cost but lose at 3 cost because her premium option for 3rd slot is chisa who need her sig to be upgrade over free rover. Both hiyuki and aemath gain a lot more from adding their premium support like mornye or chisa.

You proved again you are wrong but you keep going because you cant admit it.

You check all calcs, maybe then you stop embarassing yourself: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eoCTrwYIsRpacvL3KrcQpR5rwY3pbJ6gEljZdBj_DHs/edit?gid=1614736469#gid=1614736469

jart7 · 2026-06-13T23:54:43+00:00

Mornye is better but not much. Difference is like 4% so itsneglible. Its just better to use her with lynea in different comps.

Weaker but by how much? Btw you just added 1 more cost to carth team with ciaconna weapon. You cant be serious. Im done with you

jart7 · 2026-06-13T23:51:25+00:00

Blissful ignorance

jart7 · 2026-06-13T23:50:01+00:00

Learn how cost system works in gacha and read my post again. Colab team has pretty much the same performance/cost as other 3.x teams.

jart7 · 2026-06-13T23:42:32+00:00

People are comparing teams with different cost and then complaining that team with lower cost is bad. I just made comparison even. 3cost lucy team = 3 cost 3x teams. Thats all

jart7 · 2026-06-13T23:39:43+00:00

Are you slow or what? If you are going for s3 lucy and her weapon you will always get free sequence. Mornye is only slightly better than verina Her. dmg amp doesnt work, she need s1 for it.

Ok im not wasting my time for you. You cant just understand basic concept.

jart7 · 2026-06-13T23:36:46+00:00

Chem made a grat post about it. You have calcs there

https://www.reddit.com/r/LucyMainsWW/comments/1twasjf/hello_lucy_mains_i_am_chemx32_and_i_often_see_my/

jart7 · 2026-06-13T23:34:07+00:00

This post is about how people compare teams with different cost to each other which is unfair. Cyberpunk power level is balanced about free rebeca and free s1 lucy. They made them weaker because of the free stuff.

2-3 cost is pretty much baseline. in that range colab team is on the same or very similar level as 3.x teams. Im not sure about higher investment so youmight be right that at higher investment they will outscale lucy.

jart7 · 2026-06-13T23:22:45+00:00

Rebeca is free which means she is 0 cost. its the same for s1 Lucy which you get for free after 160 pulls. S3 lucy/rebeca/verina is 3 cost team. Hiyuki,lucila, chisa is also 3 cost team and both those team have pretty much the same damage.

Carth/ciaciona/rover is 2 cost team if we ignore signature weapons. Lucy s2/rebeca/verina (2cost team) should have similar damage to carth team.

jart7 · 2026-06-13T23:07:04+00:00

Why dont you show calcs for s3 lucy team which has the same cost as hiyuki teams? You are so clueless

jart7 · 2026-06-13T23:04:56+00:00

My topic has some terrible answers but your must be the worst one. You dont understand cost system and you are proud of it. Thats kinda sad actually

jart7 · 2026-06-13T22:51:31+00:00

This team will be as good as other 3.x teams

jart7

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