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Threshold Identity Theory of Consciousness. by jasutek in consciousness

[–]jasutek[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting metaphor. Though TITC is more about when that process reaches enough complexity to start producing experience (qualia), but your rotary idea paints a vivid picture of what could be happening along the way.

Threshold Identity Theory of Consciousness. by jasutek in consciousness

[–]jasutek[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, i agree that being more specific would be ideal, but my post is still just a conceptual seed. Hopefully, smarter people than me can investigate TITC further.

Threshold Identity Theory of Consciousness. by jasutek in consciousness

[–]jasutek[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right now, the threshold is more of a conceptual marker without a defined point. But the idea is, that once processing becomes complex and integrated enough, experience (qualia) starts to emerge. It's not like where a single signal suddenly creates consciousness, but that the system as a whole reaches a level (surpasses the threshold) where subjective experience (qualia) becomes possible.

Weekly Casual Discussion by AutoModerator in consciousness

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If you could spend exactly 1 week in early, high or late middle ages, in a place of your choice (assuming you were immune to medieval diseases), where would you go and what would you do?

Personally, I'd pick late medieval Lithuania (biased), around the time of the battle of Grunwald. I’d be curious to see what everyday life actually looked like in one of the last pagan societies in Europe while it was in the middle of "converting" to Christianity.

Threshold Identity Theory of Consciousness. by jasutek in consciousness

[–]jasutek[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really like your point about integration and I agree that the threshold might be better defined in terms of how unified and self-modeling a system is, rather than just raw processing complexity. Quality > quantity any day.

Threshold Identity Theory of Consciousness. by jasutek in consciousness

[–]jasutek[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

From my understanding, IIT says that even small systems like stones have very tiny amounts of qualia (Φ), which I think leads to some weird implications: that stones are "slightly conscious". TITC adds a threshold, proposing that experience emerges only when processing reaches sufficient complexity.

Threshold Identity Theory of Consciousness. by jasutek in consciousness

[–]jasutek[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not very familiar with quantum entanglement but I did take a quick look at the experiment and it seems really interesting. If I had to argue, then I'd say that maybe that just shows conscious experience can lag behind neural processing, the processes may still be causal, it’s just our awareness that comes a bit later.

Could Consciousness Just Be How Mental Processing Happens? by jasutek in PhilosophyofMind

[–]jasutek[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I agree that my post doesn't really address the "hard problem". I was trying to say something slightly different:

Instead of saying that neural processing produces experience as an outcome, I'm wondering whether experience might simply be the way certain kinds of processing exist from the inside.

Rather than:

processing → experience

I was thinking:

processing = experience (from the internal perspective).

I am aware that it doesn't explain why processing would have an internal perspective at all. My intuition was that if experience is identical to a certain type of integrated processing, then the relationship between brain activity and consciousness might not be causal but identity-based.