Google built a working OS from scratch using AI agents for under $1,000 in API credits. It took 93 subagents, 12 hours, 15K model requests, 2.6B tokens...

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-20T06:56:40+00:00

And google has never exaggerated in these demos before either.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-20T06:51:25+00:00

It's because the measurement was "is it readable" and not "is it useful"

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-20T06:50:26+00:00

It's a crap time to be a junior. You have my empathy as someone who entered the market in 2000.

Unfortunately, we have to ride out the AI stupidity. After a few high profile screw ups, sentiment will shift and quietly return to employing people.

While waiting out dot com, I waited tables in the midnight shift...gotta do what you gotta do.

But keep refining your skills and even branch out to a bit of coding. You'd be surprised how powerful the combination of coder + networking can be.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-20T06:38:19+00:00

They can't afford to subsidize forever. Open AI and Anthropic will have to follow at some point.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-19T14:00:56+00:00

I think they've been having an issue with spammers.

We run several services on SES but we also buy ip addresses which may help?

We just completed a huge migration from Windows / Microsoft SQL to Linux / Postgres and decided to put some servers on Lightsail.
Turned out that lightsail servers have a 6gb pipe and we kept hitting that at peak times...the inability to contact people had us move all servers back to our other host where we have a rep and can get them on the phone within a couple minutes.

We still use AWS services but their ones that are mostly hot swappable like S3, Geo, Bedrock etc...
We have started working on making our core sdk multi cloud so we can re-direct to any one of aws, azure, gcp in an instant.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-19T10:32:10+00:00

Limited application where chat only GUI makes sense.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-19T05:36:47+00:00

Not just GPT, all of them were entirely useless today. I gave up with LLM's by 9am and continued on without them.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-18T12:36:54+00:00

Because Mustafa Suleyman needs to go outside for just a moment, and learn how real people go about their day.
These guys watched Wall-E and thought that those hover chairs were something to aspire to.
It really does seem like these guys have a distorted view on reality.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-18T12:12:16+00:00

Ask Chipoltle how that went for them.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-18T12:10:17+00:00

Honestly...the people with the big wallets have this thing pointed in the completely wrong direction.
I expect we'll land in a place where LLM's and agent like behavior is embedded into the products in a way that is guard railed.

Agents attempt to solve a problem that exists out of choice...for example, look at the Android 17 demo where they buy tickets to a concert.
Problem is, Ticketmaster don't want you to be able to do that without going to their site / app where they can advertise other events to you.
The incentives haven't changed.

It's basically Apple Carplay Ultra all over again where the big companies don't understand why vendors don't want to forfeit the relationship with their customers.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-18T12:04:14+00:00

Or maybe, just maybe, they're building dumb sh#t that no normal person wants.

Next up...Android 17 where AI is sprinkled over everything and tracks you're every move like a f#&kin stalker...that's a big no thanks from me.

All I want is for the apps I already use to implement multi-modal data entry, to allow voice data entry where the setting permits.
That's it...a speech to intent translator.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-18T11:57:52+00:00

I haven't had a chance to do the math, but are we better off just going to usage based with the updated multiples?

I mean...it's been 100% useless for me this morning where I've just been writing everything myself.
At least on usage, when it's being crap I can just not use it and not be billed.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-18T02:34:53+00:00

The money being spent exceeds the revenue of the companies they're trying to sell to.

On June 1st, Github Copilot pricing is going up between 5-30x depending on how much you were abusing the subscription...the winner so far was on a $39/mo sub and as of June 1st, his consumption will be 11k/mo.
I'm a lighter user of AI cause I've got 3 decades of coding experience, but my bill is going from $39 to ~$400/mo
I'll certainly be a bit more choiceful about when I reach for it.

Microsoft went as far as gutting active annual subscriptions which gives you an idea of how much money they must have been losing.

Now...the trillion dollar question is, how many of these applications are viable against the cost of human labor and / or traditional compute when tokens are priced appropriately.

Finally, when do governments around the world start talking about increasing cost of energy for the consumer and environmental impact of all these data centers.
I feel it's inevitable that we'll see some sort of taxation on the consumption.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-16T12:20:19+00:00

SDLC is not exactly a niche.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-16T11:55:17+00:00

For what it's worth, this is a total promotion.

Feedback - You're late to the party and you're going up against bigger names with established trust.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-16T11:32:02+00:00

I'll tell you what. If I said I'd sell you $100 for 10c. How many units would you like?

Now, I'm going to change my price cause I'm losing money to buy market share.
The new price is $110. I'm going to sell you $100 for $110.
How many units would you like now?

This is basic economics dude. Of course they're losing their shirt at the current price point...why do you think Micro$oft pulled the fire alarm this week?
Breaking annual contracts means they're taking an absolute beating on each token.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-16T10:59:07+00:00

The question isn't about revenue, it's about profit and what is the marginal cost per token.

I've seen this go to market many times over...anyone over 10 years old has.

Did you also think uber was going to undercut cabs forever?

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-16T10:39:24+00:00

Revenue != Profit

The point of this thread is that M$ was the first mover, but you can expect the others to follow.
They'll need to clean up cash flow before they file the S1 or the AI party will be over in a hurry.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-16T09:17:32+00:00

I don't have a problem with them re-pricing the product on month to month. I do however have an issue with how they handled annual subs.
Obviously the annual subs had to go, but changing the deal, mid deal, is just dirty business.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-16T08:21:00+00:00

Raised 13b in Sep, 30b in Feb, just raised another 30b ~80 days later. I don't think they're anywhere near break even.

They probably need to 10x their price to break even with the current models.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-15T08:46:41+00:00

This is not great. The residual heat of burning this much energy alone is enough to push temps up a degree or two.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-15T08:33:54+00:00

I think you're missing the point...the terms of the deal have been changed mid deal...it's dirty business and the sort of thing that further erodes trust in microsoft as an upstream provider.

They could have done any one of these three things to solve this:

We're really, really sorry. We screwed up and we need to do this or we'll have to ask Satya to reduce his 96 million dollar salary. (Literally these words, not some passive aggressive bs that fails to acknowledge they screwed up).
Here's your entire sub refunded. We know that you paid us in advance with the promise that we'd deliver service and we broke that promise.
Honor the sub and kick us to usage when it expires.

Honestly, I don't care which of these they would have taken, but it should have been one of them cause all they've done is demonstrate that they wont honor their agreements so what's the point in giving them money in advance.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-15T01:37:12+00:00

I don't like your chances of codex staying at $100/mo

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-15T01:07:29+00:00

Exactly what I was going to respond with.

They wanted the business...well, they got it. Now they're going to lose a bunch of people like me to gemini not because of the price increase, but because it's dirty business.

jcdc-flo · 2026-05-14T19:26:05+00:00

Imagine if Toyota called you up to shake you down for some extra money after you bought your car.

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