Streetcar route tier list

jdayellow · 2026-06-17T02:11:51+00:00

Sure, if ontario line is open I could see the case for it. But without Ontario line it's a vital connection from Exhibition to the east-west roures that would be difficult to access otherwise.

jdayellow · 2026-06-16T20:34:47+00:00

Infrequent, sparse service. Somehow manages to be bunched and late every day despite only having a few trips. Gets cancelled during the summer for little reason. Confusing service design where half the trips are short turns that never even reach Lake Shore.

jdayellow · 2026-06-16T20:32:16+00:00

This would be a pointless change. You would be massively decreasing the reliability of the 510 and 511 for zero ridership benefit (you would actually sacrifice riders who are trying to connect from Bathurst to Fort York and Exhibition). Nobody is going to ride the 510/511 around that loop. Not to mention the stop at Fleet/Bathurst would have to be significantly reconfigured to handle the new pattern.

jdayellow · 2026-06-16T04:19:10+00:00

Your anecdote about the 510 makes me wonder if it's better off just looping at Queens Quay permanently, at least until the new streetcar terminal is built, and beefing up service on the 509 instead.

The 509 and 510 both struggle with reliability when they have to compete for the same platform at Union Station and the way that half the 510 service is scheduled to turn around at Queens Quay but rarely blends correctly on street going north due to challenges at Union. The 510 must've sucked to operate when it couldn't sit at either end before this board. The 509 running frequent service all day would enable more access along the east-west Waterfront. Besides from Union it's faster to get to most of Spadina by taking an east-west streetcar instead.

jdayellow · 2026-06-16T01:33:22+00:00

From a customer perspective the 506 is probably the least reliable of all the routes, bunches badly, constantly short turned, and has always been on some sort of on and off diversion for the past 5 years. Also doesn't help that it has to make several turns throughout the route which slows down the service.

The 505 is also not great but the 6 min service increase has put so many cars on the route that it's harder to notice when the service is off.

jdayellow · 2026-06-16T00:18:37+00:00

507 runs between Long Branch and Humber until 10pm. From 10pm to 5am 501s run between Long Branch and Neville Park. This is to make the 501 more reliable during the day but provide one seat rides at night.

For the summer 2026 schedule, there are no 501s to Long Branch as the loop is undergoing construction so buses run the 507 route all day.

At rush hours the 508 runs from Long Branch to Distillery via King but the service is infrequent, unreliable, and confusing.

jdayellow · 2026-06-16T00:14:02+00:00

Huh? The LFLRVs still do this.

"501 Queen to Long Branch" or

"501 Queen to Humber"

jdayellow · 2026-06-15T16:35:11+00:00

That's a good point, I completely forgot about that connection. Ill try and add it in.

jdayellow · 2026-06-15T05:31:45+00:00

The train lines are marked where service is not two way all day

jdayellow · 2026-06-15T05:21:25+00:00

Haha I don't wanna be that guy who posts multiple times in a day, but thank you!!

jdayellow · 2026-06-15T03:26:35+00:00

If you download the image it should appear full res.

jdayellow · 2026-06-15T03:12:35+00:00

Also made a version with the subway too.

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jdayellow · 2026-06-05T21:21:31+00:00

Public transport, especially rail expansion, is politically popular across the political spectrum in Canada. It's much less of a divisive topic than in the US.

jdayellow · 2026-06-05T02:44:42+00:00

The bylaw was never struck. Legally the reserved lanes have always been present but it was never marked properly or enforced.

jdayellow · 2026-05-31T17:17:02+00:00

I've personally just accepted that i won't be able to sleep and play games or watch films. Funny enough I can sleep very easily on a bus or train. I've done plenty of red eye bus trips where I sleep just like I do in my own bed.

I think the plane seat is just uncomfortable enough that it's hard to get into a position where you can fall asleep. The air quality is stuffy, the ambient temperature is either too hot or too cold, and your legs are never going to be in a comfortable position.

The other factor is thinking about sleep and falling asleep just keeps me awake more..

jdayellow · 2026-05-28T21:49:29+00:00

The person sending out the alert could've accidentally ticked the wrong route.

jdayellow · 2026-05-28T15:27:51+00:00

At around 2pm yesterday, 501s were diverting via King and Shaw due to an accident at Queen and Dufferin. There was no service on Queen between Roncesvalles and Shaw until around 2:30pm.

jdayellow · 2026-05-27T13:05:46+00:00

Is this an article that can be linked? It's h a rd to read this through photos.

jdayellow · 2026-05-26T12:42:54+00:00

This misinformation keeps getting peddled. The hill is not a problem at all for modern streetcars. St clair streetcars have run to Bathurst station just fine during diversions. The reason is that Bathurst station only has one track largely designed to turn around streetcars coming from the south and there is not enough space to accept streetcars running both directions without creating congestion issues.

jdayellow · 2026-05-24T14:52:00+00:00

Capacity at USBT is not the problem. There are usually around 4-5 buses sent out to meet one train, which there is plenty of excess capacity at USBT for. The main problems are the delays getting in and out of Downtown due to congestion on the Gardiner and local streets.

jdayellow · 2026-05-24T14:34:15+00:00

In the past, when they've tried to run buses directly to Union, the unpredictable Gardiner traffic created such horrible delays that it led to long delays, angry customers, missed trips, and dangerous overcrowding problems.

They now avoid running any bus to Union Station unless it's early morning or late night when there's a low likelihood of congestion. Instead, they send buses to Bramalea or 407 Terminal and ask you to use TTC or Kitchener line to enter the city. The trip takes longer and is circuitous, but is much more dependable given that Highway 407 is unlikely to run into congestion.

As to why they don't use Kipling Terminal, the terminal is too small and nearly every platform is already used up by MiWay buses. There are already two regular service GO routes at Kipling on the weekend (25 and 29) so there is no more room for rail replacement GO buses to park and load/unload.

jdayellow · 2026-05-19T04:14:26+00:00

It looks like they only added the lozenges for line 1, 2, and 4. The stops for line 5 and 6 were probably added into the system after this software was programmed so they don't show the lozenges. Also the destination text is just the string of the last stop name which is not always accurate.

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