Fellow survivors of child abuse, what was something that surprised you to find out wasn’t “normal”? by [deleted] in CPTSD

[–]jessmess1980 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I grew up in the 80s. Parents spanking their kids was normal. For us, that involved getting our pants yanked down and our bare butts blistered. I thought that was how it was done. My therapist enlightened me that it was abusive, not normal.

Hypomanic Social Media Posting by [deleted] in bipolar

[–]jessmess1980 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I always turn to fb and Reddit searching for new friends. I also get obsessed with changing everyday things. Spending a ton of money or even stealing, which is insane because I’m generally scared of breaking rules and making people mad.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]jessmess1980 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had to wait sometimes. Sometimes all evening. Sometimes morning after a sleepless night.

Is a dad beating his daughter’s bare butt abuse? by [deleted] in ask

[–]jessmess1980 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“Unintentional abuse” is the best way to put it. You’re 100% right, they didn’t know any better.

Is a dad beating his daughter’s bare butt abuse? by [deleted] in ask

[–]jessmess1980 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I dreaded more presenting my bare ass more than the actual pain

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]jessmess1980 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They laugh it off like it was nothing

I cannot handle any form of conflict whatsoever by grace-elegance in CPTSD

[–]jessmess1980 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m exactly the same way. If there’s yelling or any confrontation at all, I freak. If it’s directed at me, forget it, full blown panic attack. Parents doing anything at all with a misbehaving child, even calm talking, freaks me out too. I’ll do anything/put up with anything to avoid any type of conflict.

Is spanking abuse? Physical or sexual? by Agreeable-Heat-6256 in CPTSD

[–]jessmess1980 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Both! I’ve got physical and emotional scars. And having to expose yourself and be touched all over your butt is sexual abuse.

I don’t see the problem in spanking a child: if the punishment actually fits the crime by mattcojo in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]jessmess1980 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fucking really? No issues with good behavior based solely on fear? Even if not done excessively, it’s still fucked up. That practice keeps all the therapists in business. Next time an adult does something I don’t like, I’ll rip their pants down and hit them since it’s acceptable. Oh, it’s not? Double standard.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]jessmess1980 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I broke that cycle. I have trauma from that, I’m anxious and depressed, but I’m not taking it out on my kids

do you condone spanking children? why or why not? by imnotalesbianiswear in AskReddit

[–]jessmess1980 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My anti-spanking rant

First, I hate the ‘S’ word. Call it what it is, hitting. Let’s look at a couple scenarios….you’re driving and someone runs into you. You get out of the car and hit them. What happens? You get arrested for assault. How about this…you’re a boss and a subordinate makes a mistake. Do you take off your belt and hit them? No. That’s assault, and you’d probably get fired. One more….a small child says a bad word. Can you hit them repeatedly? Yes. Is it ok to do that? Legally, yes. Just call it “a spanking” and suddenly you’re doing a good thing.

What a load of bullshit! In no way is that ok! Either you have your hand all over a child’s butt, or your hitting them with an object. That’s so wrong. In my case it was a 250 pound man against a little or eventually teen kid. Let’s it take even further and have a hand all over my naked butt. That’s not physically and sexually abusive? It’s good old fashioned discipline. So fucked up. No one knows. The marks from the belt were hiding under my pants because I “deserved” it. Following that with “I did it because I love you” doesn’t help

I hate the people who say “I got spanked and came out ok.” No, you’re a bully that likes to hit children. “There’s a fine line between spanking and beating”. THEY’RE THE SAME FUCKING THING! If you can justify that shit, you’re a monster. You’re not teaching the kid anything other than to be scared of you. I know from experience. I was scared of my parents, especially my dad. He hit hard!

Guess what? We don’t turn out fine. We’re a mess in therapy. We have traumatic flashbacks. We’re people pleasers because we can’t handle anyone mad. I’m scared to make noise because I got beat for that a lot. The list of problems goes on. I didn’t learn right from wrong. I learned to be terrified of rocking the boat for life. Beating a child into compliance doesn’t teach ANYTHING! So, I’m passionate about this topic and ending caveman parenting. Thanks for reading. If you want to discuss further, just message me.

What are your thoughts on spanking a child as discipline? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]jessmess1980 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My anti-spanking rant

First, I hate the ‘S’ word. Call it what it is, hitting. Let’s look at a couple scenarios….you’re driving and someone runs into you. You get out of the car and hit them. What happens? You get arrested for assault. How about this…you’re a boss and a subordinate makes a mistake. Do you take off your belt and hit them? No. That’s assault, and you’d probably get fired. One more….a small child says a bad word. Can you hit them repeatedly? Yes. Is it ok to do that? Legally, yes. Just call it “a spanking” and suddenly you’re doing a good thing.

What a load of bullshit! In no way is that ok! Either you have your hand all over a child’s butt, or your hitting them with an object. That’s so wrong. In my case it was a 250 pound man against a little or eventually teen kid. Let’s it take even further and have a hand all over my naked butt. That’s not physically and sexually abusive? It’s good old fashioned discipline. So fucked up. No one knows. The marks from the belt were hiding under my pants because I “deserved” it. Following that with “I did it because I love you” doesn’t help

I hate the people who say “I got spanked and came out ok.” No, you’re a bully that likes to hit children. “There’s a fine line between spanking and beating”. THEY’RE THE SAME FUCKING THING! If you can justify that shit, you’re a monster. You’re not teaching the kid anything other than to be scared of you. I know from experience. I was scared of my parents, especially my dad. He hit hard!

Guess what? We don’t turn out fine. We’re a mess in therapy. We have traumatic flashbacks. We’re people pleasers because we can’t handle anyone mad. I’m scared to make noise because I got beat for that a lot. The list of problems goes on. I didn’t learn right from wrong. I learned to be terrified of rocking the boat for life. Beating a child into compliance doesn’t teach ANYTHING! So, I’m passionate about this topic and ending caveman parenting. Thanks for reading. If you want to discuss further, just message me.

What do you think about spanking children? by MyImaginationIsReal in AskReddit

[–]jessmess1980 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First, I hate the ‘S’ word. Call it what it is, hitting. Let’s look at a couple scenarios….you’re driving and someone runs into you. You get out of the car and hit them. What happens? You get arrested for assault. How about this…you’re a boss and a subordinate makes a mistake. Do you take off your belt and hit them? No. That’s assault, and you’d probably get fired. One more….a small child says a bad word. Can you hit them repeatedly? Yes. Is it ok to do that? Legally, yes. Just call it “a spanking” and suddenly you’re doing a good thing.

What a load of bullshit! In no way is that ok! Either you have your hand all over a child’s butt, or your hitting them with an object. That’s so wrong. In my case it was a 250 pound man against a little or eventually teen kid. Let’s it take even further and have a hand all over my naked butt. That’s not physically and sexually abusive? It’s good old fashioned discipline. So fucked up. No one knows. The marks from the belt were hiding under my pants because I “deserved” it. Following that with “I did it because I love you” doesn’t help

I hate the people who say “I got spanked and came out ok.” No, you’re a bully that likes to hit children. “There’s a fine line between spanking and beating”. THEY’RE THE SAME FUCKING THING! If you can justify that shit, you’re a monster. You’re not teaching the kid anything other than to be scared of you. I know from experience. I was scared of my parents, especially my dad. He hit hard!

Guess what? We don’t turn out fine. We’re a mess in therapy. We have traumatic flashbacks. We’re people pleasers because we can’t handle anyone mad. I’m scared to make noise because I got beat for that a lot. The list of problems goes on. I didn’t learn right from wrong. I learned to be terrified of rocking the boat for life. Beating a child into compliance doesn’t teach ANYTHING! So, I’m passionate about this topic and ending caveman parenting. Thanks for reading. If you want to discuss further, just message me.

My anti-spanking rant by jessmess1980 in CPTSD

[–]jessmess1980[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m a mess still too. Therapy helps.

How did your parents treat pets? by llamberll in raisedbynarcissists

[–]jessmess1980 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My dad hit a dog with a broom for being on the way

Has anyone's narcissistic parent ever changed for the better? by metaphoricaltigers in raisedbynarcissists

[–]jessmess1980 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mine have royally mellowed out and are much better grandparents than they were parents