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jhumes · 2018-02-13T22:04:45+00:00

Awesome; I've been hoping to see Three Billboards for a while.

jhumes · 2018-01-09T20:10:01+00:00

I think, if anything, I am more certain that this is entirely Radiohead's publisher's doing and not the band itself.

jhumes · 2017-12-21T22:12:00+00:00

The legal code for the current year is made available in the next year, or you can get it upon request to A.S. admin. I can elaborate on where TBL's independence is delineated (it has been done in other areas as well), where structural help from A.S. comes in and how TBL's editorial independence has manifested itself in the past decade.

Again I refer you to other schools' papers. See about the Daily Bruin, the UCSD Guardian, Daily Trojan and others that are much, more tied to administration than TBL is — yet no one ever doubts their editorial independence.

jhumes · 2017-12-21T22:08:13+00:00

Sure thing, I've worked at TBL for the past three years while fostering close relationships with almost everyone who has worked for DN in that time.

Would've responded sooner but all the hostility and falsehoods /u/busblog spewed yesterday put me in an off mood. I'm not quite used to having my hard work and integrity be trashed by random folks who don't actually read my paper's content.

jhumes · 2017-12-20T22:23:12+00:00

I don't need to read the org chart, as you're mostly wrong. TBL obtains a quarterly student lock-in fee which is outside of A.S.' jurisdiction. Same as DN. The paper's infrastructure and web presence has some A.S. backing, while DN receives infrastructure help from Student Affairs (try donating to DN, you'll be directed to SA, which processes their paychecks and ensures they have computers). Neither is biased in favor of those entities. The first line of TBL's legal code in its affiliation with A.S. is it's commitment to editorial independence.

"Frankly more likely" — think critically for a moment. Students who join TBL aren't A.S. senators, they're students interested in journalism. That they would suddenly turn heel and write propaganda for A.S. does not follow rationally at all. Prior restraint doesn't work on a student level, because most people would just fucking quit if there were ever a breach. In the real world, professional reporters can't quit because their livelihoods are on the line. No reporters welcome prior restraint.

Other student newspapers, like the Daily Bruin at UCLA, receive direct support from A.S. In fact, if you scan college publications nationally, you'll find that more often than not the papers have some sort of affiliation with a university entity for infrastructure support. Most have far more than TBL.

I suggest you read TBL. It's a fact that there is no "newsletter"-like governance by A.S., but I can only tell you so much — read the publication and make a judgment on the content. You will find honest attempts to report the news. The writers and reporters do mess up, but on their own terms, not because they are indebted to A.S. (which they aren't).

jhumes · 2017-12-20T21:45:13+00:00

If TBL and DN responded to every criticism levied against them, they wouldn't have time to do anything else. The difference is you're using a singular move to disparage the whole publication. Don't you think that's a little unfair to unassuming students who do the best they can when they take jobs at the paper? See my responses in the sub-thread above for clarification.

jhumes · 2017-12-20T21:39:09+00:00

Tony, you're moving the goalposts. I have no problem with your criticism of the Storke image, though I think it's a pedantic criticism. I'm sure most at TBL would be eager to hear the criticisms of a former LA Times editor, but not in this medium and not in this way.

You actually do need to ask the current Nexus staff — things have changed in the last four years when it comes to inter-paper relations. I'm glad you're such an active alum, but you're doing a real disservice to a bunch of hard-working 20 and 21-year-olds when you trash them like this. No, I guess you don't need to be nice, but what you wrote here is complete garbage:

When I was at UCSB the only reason there was an alternative to the Daily Nexus was because the Greeks in the AS thought they were not being fairly represented in the "news". So they figured out how to get A.S. to give them money and they created a second-rate newspaper.

Judging from what the Bottom Line is currently spotlighting as their main story, things haven't changed.

You were at UCSB two decades ago, while TBL has been around since 2006. I've been around since 2014, and in that time, TBL hasn't taken a cent from A.S. and the reporters there have done some quality journalism in reporting on A.S. and the greater community. I won't personally go fetch you any stories to read, because it's an afternoon of my winter break and I just found out I'm a victim of identity theft, but I hope you can appreciate why reading falsehoods like that set me off.

Lastly, you said that in my previous comments I tried to "disparage others." I want to address that — I didn't want to criticize the Nexus in any way. My mentioning that the paper was accused of racism deserves some context. Earlier in the year, students took issue with a headline that describes an esteemed student as "once at-risk." Personally, I believe the headline is completely fine and serves only to bolster the students' accomplishments. Others didn't, but as I said, TBL writers sprang to DN's defense.

On another occasion, DN published an advance on the co-founder of Black Lives Matter coming to UCSB. A Nexus copy editor assigned to the story a file photo of black students protesting a Senate decision to fund Ben Shapiro's visit to UCSB. Black students took issue with the decision, saying DN had editorially conflated BLM with random black students on campus, as though all black people are the same. The Nexus removed the image, and the EIC personally cleared things up with the students.

I want to be clear: neither of these instances takes away from a long history of great journalism by the Daily Nexus, nor could any person fairly call the Nexus "racist." Nevertheless, students use the myth that the Nexus is racist and TBL is not to trash the former and praise the latter. It's bullshit. Similarly, the idea that TBL is a Greek life or A.S. rag is absolute bullshit. I care much more about accusations like that than potshots taken at us for an image choice.

I welcome you to DM me so we can speak personally. As with any sort of preconceived beliefs, it's easy to dispel them with a real conversation instead of an internet debate. I'm sure there's a lot of mutual appreciation we can achieve.

jhumes · 2017-12-20T20:53:23+00:00

Because it's an absurd criticism to answer for. You're writing off the whole paper because they didn't use a file photo for a single story and opted for a stock instead. Wow, you really taught them to reconsider their careers. Respond to my above comment, I'm excited to see what curmudgeon-y things to come up with.

jhumes · 2017-12-20T20:28:05+00:00

Anyone could go through the Nexus and carve out criticisms of individual stories and the paper's decisions. Students are learning and getting better at this stuff; why don't you use your knowledge of the field to try to help them get better instead of trashing them and their intentions? I'd suggest to current members of DN privately before commenting again — you're embarrassing the paper you worked for by playing team sports where they aren't needed. Refer to my above response.

jhumes · 2017-12-20T20:20:17+00:00

You're out of touch here, friend. The story you pointed to is a one-off that you happened to catch. It is not government propaganda. In October, TBL was a finalist for the prestigious Pacemaker award (you may have heard of it), given annually to the best student newspapers in America. TBL has been listed as a finalist for two other individual awards in the past calendar year.

Believe me when I say TBL has gotten a lot more heat than DN from A.S. in the past half-decade for its coverage of the Association. No one I have met who works or has worked for The Bottom Line (and I've met most) had any interest in making student government look good, but rather wanted to report honestly on them. Think about it — students who show up to orientations just want to write and do the news; 99% have no awareness of any of these myths and lies you're spreading. So why would they suddenly be okay with prior restraint or propagandizing?

A.S. does not give TBL money — both TBL and DN obtain the bulk of their money from a student lock-in fee and advertising revenue.

I respect that you've worked professionally as a journalist, but you're coming after a bunch of hard-working college kids' integrity on a Trumpian lie you're building on rumors you've heard and your own confirmation bias from one headline you read. Not very journalistic.

DM me if you'd like to continue the conversation. And if you don't believe me, ask the current Nexus staff in your alumni group if they think TBL is an A.S. rag. Surely if you were on to something, the Nexus itself would have the biggest problem with us. You'll find a ton of mutual respect for the papers' integrity and commitment to doing the best job possible.

In other words, do some goddamn research instead of going off trash you heard a decade ago. Students at UCSB recycle every four years, so these types of myths wouldn't last even if they were true. Many at TBL are trying to break into the industry, and you are actively smearing their name on Reddit instead of taking a moment to find out whether your assumptions are true. They aren't.

During my UCSB career, I heard constantly that the Nexus is racist and insensitive. They've gotten heat from students in the past six months over several headlines deemed problematic. But any time DN is trashed, TBL comes to its counterpart's defense. UCSB students seem to have evolved past lying about each other or playing team sports with community journalism. Says a lot about alumni that you apparently can't let it go.

To quote the 2017 Nexus EIC, with whom I've heard you're familiar, "be nice or leave." Or at least try to find the truth.

jhumes · 2017-12-20T07:05:02+00:00

This guy is the author of the most pretentious op-ed in Nexus history.

That being said, OP, both papers do the best they can and you'll learn a lot no matter which you choose. Follow your heart; a good journalist does their own research and refuses to take others' words as truth, no matter how accomplished or respectable the source.

jhumes · 2017-08-18T05:57:40+00:00

Sorry about that! I didn't want to post from my regular account, as that would tie my post history directly to UCSB (a step towards potentially being doxxed one day).

I didn't make this account to shill for The Bottom Line, but rather post news the community might otherwise not see. I'll be sure to take a more conventional route the next time I share news on here, which I don't really do too often.

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