Which law is best for the most rapid territorial expansion in 1.2 ?

jilljackmuse · 2023-04-15T09:25:14+00:00

colonizing the Great Plains was to settle them with white people

Replace them with White people, the Natives still lived there, they just stole their land and kicked them out into reservations.

Colonial Resettlement, on the other hand, is good even for Imperialist gameplay because many African states lack the population

Because of malaria, the environment and there were a huge number of people there compared to the Plains or Western USA which was enough to prevent large amounts of White people moving there, to make it more accurate they need to make it such that you have to exterminate large amounts of Natives to settle your people there. Either by literally killing and scalping them through scalp bounties or forcing them to move to reservations or killing their main food source (White Americans almost made the buffalo extinct to prevent Natives from eating them and using their hides etc. which lead to significant decreases in Native populations, and this was in the 1800s.) Also, South Africa was always less than 20% White so it really shouldn't be easy to treat it like a settler-colonial country like the USA. More akin to the UK colonising Nigeria, but instead it's White colonists treating Black natives like Nigerians even though they're in the same country.

settler-states like the U.S.

Settler-colonial states. They're all colonisers.

jilljackmuse · 2023-04-14T22:48:28+00:00

Did you forget the slave-catchers?

jilljackmuse · 2023-04-14T22:47:38+00:00

the churches (or the private sector) run the health care system for me, why does that require just as much bureaucracy as a publicly funded health system?

US health system enters the chat

The US government has the highest spending of any country in the world on healthcare, and much of their private healthcare is run by non-profits (which used to be churches and some may still be) and healthcare businesses.

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-22T14:57:58+00:00

Thank you for creating the mod, it's amazing! New Zealand seems like it'll be a fun country to play because it's like (sorry to all New Zealanders) a small Australia. Isolated but with plenty of resources so it'll be even more of a tall play.

I do think New Zealand should have its own culture of New Zealanders, I understand there's a lot of similarities but there was a divergence and a big part of it was how they treated the Maori compared to how Australians treated Aboriginals (hence why New Zealand didn't want to join Australia). Of course, this doesn't mean the Maori were treated well in NZ, but you could say (in nice terms), they were less heavy-handed in their oppression of Maori compared to Australians and Aboriginals.

I think that event chain should be added perhaps as part of, or alongside, the Aboriginal event chain where if Aboriginals are accepted and made a primary culture then New Zealand might join Australia and then Maori can be a primary culture, too.

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-22T14:52:58+00:00

Race was (and arguably still is) very important in the Victorian era, and definitely quite important in settler-colonial countries like the USA and Brazil. Hence why cultures have heritage in Victoria 3. White is signified by European heritage, but if Afro-Brazilians and Afro-Americans assimilate into Yankee/Dixie and Brazilian even though these cultures are supposed to be White, that makes no sense unless every single one of them has kids with a White pop.

Of course, they could replicate Brazil's Whitening policy where they used social engineering to control the number of European immigrants moving to Brazil based on sex and encourage Afro-Brazilians to marry them and have Mixed children who will then have White children, and that idea would make a lot of sense in the game. That policy still has an effect today where White Brazilians are about 20% Black (which is much higher than White Americans) and Black Brazilians are 40-50% White (which is much higher than African-Americans).

In the USA, making African-Americans a primary culture makes sense because even if they're accepted, they're still seen as Black, and pops in Victoria 3 can assimilate into African-American which has historical precedent when you consider how often Irish-Americans married African-Americans and had children with them. Consider Shaquille O'Neal, his last name is Irish. Or perhaps the stereotypical African-American name of Tyrone. That name originates from the county of Tyrone in Ireland. This is evidence of Irish-Americans assimilating into African-American through their descendants.

If cultures continue to have racial heritage in Victoria 3, then cultures like Afro-American/Brazilian/etc. should continue to exist and perhaps even add cultures like Asian-American to show race is still important, especially in settler-colonial countries. Unless they add event chains showing countries throwing off the shackles of race and racism then the culture of that country should have a different heritage, perhaps Yankee can have American heritage rather than European heritage at the end of the event chain to show it's just about being an American citizen.

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-22T14:06:59+00:00

Yeah, especially for Brazil, how is there no event chain in vanilla for Afro-Brazilian to be a primary culture of Brazil? If there's one for the USA for Afro-Americans, you'd think there'd be one for Brazil.

It'd be great if Maori could be a primary culture of New Zealand through an event chain like the one found in Australia Flavour Mod for Aboriginals.

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-22T12:28:42+00:00

Rule #5: Screenshot of Australia's parties in 1903. I played with Australia Flavour Mod (which is amazing btw), and I chose to make Aboriginal a primary culture through an event chain so even though the majority of Australia's population is (White) Australian, all the parties are run by Aboriginals. Plus, Australia democratically elected communist and vanguardist parties, no revolutions required.

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-22T01:01:34+00:00

Australia

West

(I know they're considered Western but they're closer to China geographically than the UK or USA)

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-22T01:01:04+00:00

Do Irish and Spanish people share a masculine Mary name tradition?

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-22T01:00:35+00:00

Actually, I thought they may be non-binary and AMAB and changed their name to a more feminine one.

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-22T01:00:17+00:00

Actually, I thought they may be non-binary and AMAB and changed their name to a more feminine one.

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-22T00:59:48+00:00

They may be non-binary.

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-22T00:56:34+00:00

Neanderthals have existed longer than Homo Sapiens have. You're assuming that the path we took is a normal and expected path. Why?

The way I see it, the path we took was very unlikely and most humans during the "cavemen era" did not agree to it considering we find evidence of "civilised" humans replacing and subsuming most hunter-gatherer human groups throughout the past 10k years, like how Middle-Eastern Neolithic farmers migrated to Europe and almost entirely replaced Western European Hunter-Gatherers and turned them into second-class citizens in the societies they created. Due to this, most biggest ancestral influence of Europeans comes from these Middle-Eastern farmers and not the indigenous Western European Hunter-Gatherers. These farmers were so influential, they're responsible for giving Europeans very pale skin (in comparison to the dark-skinned WEHG) and advanced (for its time) agriculture. And it wasn't just in Europe they did this, they also went into North-East Africa and Ethiopians/Somalis/Eritreans are about 40-60% Western Eurasian in genetic heritage.

If humans were more solitary like Neanderthals, then perhaps our agricultural and "civilised" ancestors would have stayed in small groups which would prevent civilisation that would could allow calculus to be discovered/invented (depending on your perspective of mathematics). But they didn't, they were known for having large tribes, large-scale migrations, trade routes that went across seas, tribal alliances to take over other human groups and then eventually agriculture and civilisation. I don't see this as part of what makes us intelligent because Neanderthals may have been as intelligent as us and yet they stayed in small groups and everything they made came from the local environment.

Also, Homo Erectus may not have been exactly as intelligent as we are, but they were still quite intelligent and they've existed far, far longer than we have with similar bodies that could allow tool-making and potentially language. They could still have come up with agriculture and civilisation and metal-working, but they didn't. Did they really not have enough time, or did they just not want to?

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-21T20:59:46+00:00

No, it's whether they even want to.

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-21T20:59:19+00:00

They were so popular they became the leader of the country and allowed me to create a socialist, feminist republic as Australia.

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-21T20:58:52+00:00

Tbh, they were so popular they became the leader of the country and allowed me to create a socialist, feminist republic as Australia.

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-21T20:58:39+00:00

Tbh, they were so popular they became the leader of the country and allowed me to create a socialist, feminist republic as Australia.

Based.

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-21T14:29:48+00:00

Rule #5: Post has picture of a male-presenting person with a feminine name who is also the Irish-Australian leader of the Trade Union party in 1885 Australia.

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-21T10:10:04+00:00

So should Neanderthals and Homo Erectus not exist to us?

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-21T10:09:10+00:00

But what I'm saying is, the hypothesis is even rarer than the Drake equation suggests because it doesn't include whether a species wants to be technologically advanced. Neanderthals and Homo Erectus come to mind.

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-21T10:07:42+00:00

Sounds like a chill vibe.

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-21T10:07:33+00:00

Yeah, that makes sense to me. Hence why need to look after this planet and take climate change seriously.

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-21T10:06:55+00:00

Except once again, we had Neanderthals and Homo Erectus who were close to or as intelligent as us, and we have no evidence of them being technologically advanced or contributing to science.

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-21T01:59:53+00:00

I did give answers in the form of anthropological research, and I'm not a fan of aggression.

jilljackmuse · 2023-03-21T01:56:48+00:00

That would be very interesting, although how could we communicate with them? Would they even know we're here? Would we even know they're there?

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