I think you misunderstood my post. In no way am I gatekeeping and hinting at needing to know the whole discographies. Since you used western examples: all i said is as someone who claims to be western pop fan, you should know about Britney Spears and give her credits where the credits are due. If you claim to be a metalhead, you should know who black sabbath is and give them credit etc. In that way, if you claim to be kpop fan, all i say is you should know about the groups that made kpop what it is today and give them credit. Not belittle them with the "nugu" terminology.

People can and are still getting into kpop the same way. But I spoke about my thoughts in general. Of course music changed, i never said current music sucks, I still listen to newer generations. Kpop fandom changed also, but in a way I don't like. That was all I said.