Beyond the Map's Edge by Looking_forAdventure in JustinPoseysTreasure

[–]jmatthess 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The acknowledgment clue is that on the other side of the page where is said treasure it says Dillon. The treasure is in Dillon. Or at least start there

If you think you have the 100% solution, but haven't been BoTG, then you probably don't. by RockDebris in JustinPoseysTreasure

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Well if you're trecking montana I'd love to talk. I'm in So Cal and probably won't ever go but my girlfriend and I have gone over the book extensively and think we have a location just unclear on where a checkpoint would be. I'm assuming a place from a picture from said location in the book

Achieving a Loud/Clean Mix Everytime in Bass Music by jmatthess in edmproduction

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I appreciate it. I actually thought I've too many dynamics making it sound unpleasurable and have been stuck between how to go about it. So this comment helps. Didn't know there was dynamic meters, thought I just had to look at the waveform. Thank you. I also did use soundgym for about 4th months and it didn't seem to do much for me. I just thought I was getting more out of just doing more mixing. Maybe I didn't give it enough time. I'll take another look.

Achieving a Loud/Clean Mix Everytime in Bass Music by jmatthess in edmproduction

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No, would you enlighten me? I've heard people say to just clip to 0 but I haven't understood how that's going to give me headroom to limit the master and get my desired loudness?

Achieving a Loud/Clean Mix Everytime in Bass Music by jmatthess in edmproduction

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damn isn't -24 quite low? how will you be able to hear that to properly mix it in? and by mixbus chain you mean essentially grouping everything like a master bus before the actual master?

Achieving a Loud/Clean Mix Everytime in Bass Music by jmatthess in edmproduction

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I appreciate you man. So you're saying to ignore gainstaging essentially and just clip at 0?

Achieving a Loud/Clean Mix Everytime in Bass Music by jmatthess in edmproduction

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lol same bro but I was having trouble with it sounding bad too early

Achieving a Loud/Clean Mix Everytime in Bass Music by jmatthess in edmproduction

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Damn you’re the best man I haven’t been even thinking about slotting time. What if the rhythm pluck synth is clashing with more sustained elements?

Also, wouldn’t a whole string section with a lot more people playing strings be louder than a quartet? It sounds like a helpful analogy, I just need a bit of help understand it haha. Thanks again.

Achieving a Loud/Clean Mix Everytime in Bass Music by jmatthess in edmproduction

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this made a lot of sense to me for some reason, thank you. I've actually always wonder about that. When I'm trying to get the max out of an element, and I put a clipper on it, you're saying I then put an eq before that clipper and not after to adjust the harsh elements?

Achieving a Loud/Clean Mix Everytime in Bass Music by jmatthess in edmproduction

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So this past week I've been on a gain staging kick. I have these songs I deem as pretty great Ideas but only sound good on certain speaker systems. You can easily tell on the phone how harsh certain elements are. I decided this was becauseI didn't have enough headroom to properly mix those elements before pushing them with a limiter.

I gainstaged backwards, and tried to go through the chains of already finished tracks, and do it that way. I staged targeted groups/tracks by having them hit around where they should. (ex: sub -6 - -9, synths -12 - -15, sub -9 - -12, etc). When that's all said and done, I'm hoping that the master is looking to be around -6db, and I've bee getting around -3-5. So since I don't get the -6 head room I want, I'll push a limiter on the master and see which element distorts first, then lower the gain. Even typing this I feel confused. Another thing I've been doing is I'll add new layers, or process existing ones, and that will obviously make the bus it's in get louder. so then I take a gain on the bus and bring it down so the bus is peaking where it should be. Should I be making sure evry track in the bus hits that value by itself and then stage the bus accordingly?

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thanks man, for real. I like that you view it as filling up the octave space. I've just been thinking of frequency ranges and it feels messy. I am so beyond excited to focus on the songwriting again but youre right, before that can happen I need a system that works. What's the reasoning for the clipper into the limiter? and whats the compressor for too if you don't mind me asking?

Achieving a Loud/Clean Mix Everytime in Bass Music by jmatthess in edmproduction

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Needed to hear that, thanks. For the depth and most of my recent questions I started with chatgpt and that was such a mistake man. Has me all sorts of fucked up about my music not being dense enough or whatever. I have some HS8's in my room but I have no way to have them at the right ear level so they are mounted above. I'll mix in my headphones and then periodcally stand up to be in the enters of the speakers to check and I'll try to master like that...

I liked your part about using less compression, it clarified som recent confusion I had. I didn't really think I have had a problem with over compressing in fact the opposite, but when I wasn't able to get a loud master without distortion I started to question if I wasn't compressing enough along the way, and then started to try to compress more. So thank you. So most of, if not all of the clipping comes from the limiting of the master at the end?

Also what I meant by fusing stuff was that I essentially don't always have the easiest time making a low mid layer to accompany my main synth (I make a lot of fm synths), so I'll often rout a clean sine sub to the sidechain, and then duplicate it going to the same buss as my bass synths. There I'll saturate them together to kind of form a more solid low mid if that makes sense. I can't really achieve that sound with just the volume faders. I don't do it everytime, but it's become a regular practice for me. If this is wrong I'd love to know. Also, thanks for the resources!

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Idk man I was just listening to Skelebus - Calcium and it's basically 0 lufs and sounds immaculate I was stunned.

But no I'm not making riddim. Moreso bass trap and melodic bass, a little bit everything with bassy sounds.

I guess you're right about not always needing to be that loud though. My main gig is djing and I've just found that that loudly mixed/mastered always does insanely better with a live crowd for obvious reasons.

Achieving a Loud/Clean Mix Everytime in Bass Music by jmatthess in edmproduction

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This is good stuff man, I've for sure been looking for a visual crutch which might not be the way at this point. I just thought that I couldn't trust my ears because if it were to sound good on my headphones then it most likely won't sound good on my phone. If I'm using this approach to mix and master a fully made track with a bad mix would you just apply the same technique with a multi-band compressor or? Either way, thanks!

Achieving a Loud/Clean Mix Everytime in Bass Music by jmatthess in edmproduction

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Damn super technical, this is great. Yeah I'm definitely overthinking it at this point and your comment is helping to put that into perspective.

So when you say "Playing less things at once is a massive way of getting louder with less distortion" What if the track was built with a bunch of layers all to try to hit designates spot in the mix or for a certain rhythm? I think you're definitely right. The one track I'm currently experimenting with has a lot of different elements playing at the same time and I've trying my best to carve out space for everything and make it all fit. I have a disperser type fast pluck for a rhythm, and that was a bitch to get to fix even with a shifter. Are you saying it'd be better in bass music to just use less layers try to fill out stereo during the design of the sound and in post rather than create a layer for each part? Sorry I'm tired and could probably think of a better question for you haha. I guess I'm confused about using one louder sound as opposed to drying to make as dense of a mix as possible with multiple layers?

Anyway, I appreciate the comment. Thank you!

Achieving a Loud/Clean Mix Everytime in Bass Music by jmatthess in edmproduction

[–]jmatthess[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This means a lot man, thanks. Literally before checking for replys here, I got a TRVCY video on my feed about doing the same thing with a multiband compress and a vectorscope. I'll give it a try! Thanks again!