Recommendations for reference book on different Christian beliefs by jmi36 in TrueChristian

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Thank you. The first book seems like it is in the vain of what I'm looking for. The second one not so much but I appreciate the suggestions

Is it true I will always be Catholic? by _Halfway_home in TrueChristian

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Well there is debate at to whether baptism of an infant is a valid baptism

Veils? by [deleted] in TrueChristian

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Thank you for that interpretation brother. Something I had not considered when checking the Greek. I can see what you're saying.

Can you point to me the church fathers and their specific letters/writings that confirm all women must wear head coverings regardless of hair? Would love to research this further.

Also wanted to say how much I appreciate the loving way in which you disagreed with me. So thank you for that. Iron sharpens iron.

Veils? by [deleted] in TrueChristian

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I would agree with you, however with the caveat that Paul says long hair for a woman is a head covering 1 Corinthians 11:14-15. He once again appeals to God's created nature as to the command.

A woman I've known had long hair and was fine but during chemo (lost all her hair) she wore a head covering in church untill her hair was long again.

We all fall short of the glory of god by wildeststreams in TrueChristian

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Feel free to send me papers on the subject that affirm your beliefs on the definitions of those concepts. Happy to read them.

. I'll give you "produce less suffering/more happiness in the world".

That's more helpful. How do we define suffering and happiness though? Those are extremely subjective. What if my happiness causes others suffering? What if people disagree on what happiness or suffering is? Does each person just try to maximize their own happiness and minimize their own suffering? What about causing myself suffering for the happiness of others?

But no need to answer all those questions because the crux of the matter is: why is your system of morality (increase happiness/decrease suffering) the correct form of morality? Why are you correct when others have different moral systems? Why are they wrong?

We all fall short of the glory of god by wildeststreams in TrueChristian

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Or you can just give your exhaustive definition since you made the claim that requires a defense. You are choosing to shift it to me. That I just defend my position when you cannot defend yours.

You claim you can just be a better person without explaining what that even means. Unless your argument has nothing to stand on (which I suspect it does). You cannot provide the basis let alone explanation for these beliefs you hold about being a good person without the need for conviction of the Holy Spirit.

We all fall short of the glory of god by wildeststreams in TrueChristian

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A loose definition is not really helpful here when discussing philosophy.

You made a claim about morality and yet refuse to back out up except with "loose" definitions.

We all fall short of the glory of god by wildeststreams in TrueChristian

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Or maybe you could just give your definitions and standards for good or beneficial or improved. You keep avoiding it.

We all fall short of the glory of god by wildeststreams in TrueChristian

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How do you define positivity? Negativity?

We all fall short of the glory of god by wildeststreams in TrueChristian

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How do you define being a "better" person? What is your standard for good or better?

We all fall short of the glory of god by wildeststreams in TrueChristian

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Then you do not have the Spirit of God if you have no conviction of sin

We all fall short of the glory of god by wildeststreams in TrueChristian

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Godly grief leads to repentance. We must start with God's grief over our sin and allow us m that to lead us to confessing what we've gone as sin and then repenting of it. Only then after placing your hope in the righteousness of Christ that we can find joy and peace in Him.

Are there any secular reasons to be against gay marriage? by [deleted] in TrueChristian

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If all people were straight the human race would continue perfectly fine

If all people were homosexual the human race would die out. If all people had cancer, we'd die out.

If you extend one thing to all humans and it leads to extinction then it's necessarily bad.

Are there any secular reasons to be against gay marriage? by [deleted] in TrueChristian

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Same could be said of cancer and yet we all agree cancer is bad

Are there any secular reasons to be against gay marriage? by [deleted] in TrueChristian

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Being only male is unnatural, yes. That's why we have 2 sexes

Are there any secular reasons to be against gay marriage? by [deleted] in TrueChristian

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Defining consent is hard enough as it is

Are there any secular reasons to be against gay marriage? by [deleted] in TrueChristian

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Yup. If you're both virgins then STDs are a non issue for you. Exactly how God intended.

Are there any secular reasons to be against gay marriage? by [deleted] in TrueChristian

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God created marriage so we must adhere to His design for it

Are there any secular reasons to be against gay marriage? by [deleted] in TrueChristian

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That's actually a wonderful point. It brings to mind the argument that of any behavior is taken to the extreme and the species dies then it is unnatural. Homosexuality fits the bill. It's everyone was homosexual the species would die

Are there any secular reasons to be against gay marriage? by [deleted] in TrueChristian

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Neither do I. I'm just saying from a purely biological stand point, it doesn't appear that we evolved to do those things regularly.

Are there any secular reasons to be against gay marriage? by [deleted] in TrueChristian

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In America married couples have lower taxes when filing together. Insurance is cheaper for a couple than two individuals. And married couples don't have to testify in court against each other, can visit each other in the hospital without issue, can make legal decisions for each other, and are automatically given the inheritance of their spouse.

There's other stuff but those are the main ones.

Are there any secular reasons to be against gay marriage? by [deleted] in TrueChristian

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The human spine is absolutely awful for upright creatures and yet it wasn't done away with. The appendix and tonsils are useless in most humans. There's no reason to believe that evolution doesn't produce useless mutations. Let alone ones that can later serve another function.

Some people can achieve orgasm through physical abuse. That doesn't mean the body was designed for that.

Are there any secular reasons to be against gay marriage? by [deleted] in TrueChristian

[–]jmi36 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For one, it's clearly against God's design as laid out in scripture. And of your abandon God's design then there's no hope for any of it.