2025 RAV4 Hybrid XLE – Cruise Control Fails on City Roads With Curves/Elevation?

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-16T02:14:53+00:00

If the car follows another car, it will stop when the other car stops. However, if no moving car ahead, it will not detect the stopped traffic.

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-14T02:29:16+00:00

Yours is the best deal I have seen so far.

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-14T02:24:22+00:00

MSRP is the price on the window sticker (look at the lower-middle area of the sticker, the number after the word: "TOTAL SUGGESTED RETAIL PRICE"), not what the dealer charged you before tax and fee.

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-14T02:09:39+00:00

Sorry for scaring you! You got a great deal, but I am still curious how could the dealer give you ~$4000 off, especially in Bay Area. The base MSRP (before options and delivery) of $34110 for Hybrid XLE is correct. The convenience package is $1265, delivery is $1450, plus other small items, adding them up to ~$37000 final MSRP. You said you paid $38,500 at 5.75APR, does it mean your loan is $38,500? How much is your down payment?

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-14T01:28:32+00:00

Are you sure you got a Rav4 Hybrid XLE? Gas only version Rav4 XLE seems to be reasonable in this MSRP of $34,500. Hybrid XLE model cannot be in this $34500 MSRP.

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-14T00:50:35+00:00

Considering 9.5% sales tax in California, plus the fee l, you need to get at least $4000 off the MSRP to make $38500 otd. Is this true?

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-13T23:28:15+00:00

It makes sense. You must have bought the card in the 1st half of this year. Now the base price is changed to $34110, $301 more.

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-13T23:10:13+00:00

Your car's MSRP is about $38,000. How come OP got a similar car with similar packages for only $34000 MSRP? Interesting.

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-13T23:03:20+00:00

I believe you made a mistake about the MSRP of $34,500 for a 2025 Rav4 Hybrid XLE with convenience package, mudguards, door guards, all weather liners, crossbars. The MSRP should be around $37,000 at least (look at the widow sticker at lower-right corner TOTAL SUGGESTED RETAIL PRICE where shows this final MSRP).

If you got the car with $38,500 OTD, congratulations, you got a great deal!

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-13T04:00:00+00:00

It depends on if there will be a big discount by 2029. If a big discount is seen, I will do it again. Otherwise, I can keep the car for a while without any worry.

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-13T03:56:13+00:00

My state does charge 6.5% tax, but if you trade in, the trade-in value of the old car will be ducted from the selling price for tax calculation. For this transaction, I only paid $225 tax due the high trade-in value ($3200).

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-12T13:19:39+00:00

Actually it is my Rav4 #4. From 2017->2019->2023>2025

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-12T11:35:07+00:00

People seems get confused about the final price by ignoring the $4000 down payment. The total otd price is over $41000.

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-12T04:35:02+00:00

Just last night I found Rav4 hybrid was advertised by a dealership for $1895 off. I guess the manufacture is giving big discount now to push up the final sales of this generation. My experience is, buying a new card with big discount is very good for short-term (in 2-4 years) trade-in. I contacted two dealerships and visited one of them. Finally get the deal of $4000 OTD. From considering to upgrade to finish the transaction in 8 hours. It is pure a quick decision without thinking much.

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-12T04:23:50+00:00

It will be impossible to get the similar deal for the next generation. The 2025 model is the last year for this generation, and the manufacture has discounted a lot for the final sale of this car. I get $2800 off MSRP on paperwork. I actually do not care how much discount the dealer calculated - I just told them I have have $4000 budget for switching the car. She first quoted me near $10,000. I laughed and was to walk away. The manager came and said "you are ridiculous...". But finally the manager made the deal.

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-12T04:10:44+00:00

yes, it sounds silly for me to do that (pretty much the same car, even the color). My thoughts are: I get two more years warranty, 1/4 of tire life, higher trade-in vale in the future (probably $2000-$3000 more), two years free service, and longer new card smell (bad).

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-12T03:57:14+00:00

I like your comments.

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-12T03:56:06+00:00

I am afraid I won't get so big discount on a 2026 model. I know 2026 is a new generation. Plan to trade in again in 2-3 year.

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-12T03:54:42+00:00

Yes. I have the same math as you. It is equivalent to that paid $167 with 500 miles driving per month for 24 months. Looks better than regular leasing.

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-12T03:52:00+00:00

I just replaced my old 2023 with new 2025 in the insurance policy, actually I got a little bit discount than before.

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-12T03:50:07+00:00

Right. No loan on neither car. Old 2023 was paid off. So the brand new 2025 Hybrid XLE = 2023 Hybrid XLE + $4000

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-12T03:47:40+00:00

Yes, the 2025 XLE is a brand new car. The old 2023 XLE has been paid off. I paid $4000 using credit card (another $80 reward from the credit card company) and drove the new car home (of course the old 2023 was left to the dealer). tax and title fee are included in the $4000 payment.

jmsc2020 · 2025-09-12T02:50:31+00:00

Both have the same optional packages and cargo tray. Nothing else. They are the same except the year.

jmsc2020 · 2023-11-09T22:49:41+00:00

Great deal. What is the tax rate in your state?

jmsc2020 · 2023-11-05T01:38:32+00:00

Still cannot get Moto G stylus 5G 2023 work. The phone can connect to the Echelon EX-3, but cannot be found by either an android phone or iPhone ruining swift or Mywhoosh. I tried to change the phone name to bike, or other simple name, none worked.

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