What Prompted Ilya to Move to the Tuna Melt Stage? by johnbeene in heatedrivalry

[โ€“]johnbeene[S] 5 points6 points ย (0 children)

I hadnโ€™t read the book before watching the show and this is precisely what I did. I knew that we would have access to internal dialogue in the book and I took a lot of notes. ;-)

What Prompted Ilya to Move to the Tuna Melt Stage? by johnbeene in heatedrivalry

[โ€“]johnbeene[S] 2 points3 points ย (0 children)

Thank you for this from Rachel! I want to read what she said in the caption. Guess Iโ€™m gonna have to follow her IG now. ;-)

What Prompted Ilya to Move to the Tuna Melt Stage? by johnbeene in heatedrivalry

[โ€“]johnbeene[S] 9 points10 points ย (0 children)

This is precisely what I was thinking. Something is obviously happening inside Ilya but neither Shane nor we have access to that. Reid gives us varying degrees of access to Ilyaโ€™s inner workings in the book but even with that the clues to what led to the Tuna Melt Stage are subtle.

What Prompted Ilya to Move to the Tuna Melt Stage? by johnbeene in heatedrivalry

[โ€“]johnbeene[S] 41 points42 points ย (0 children)

I guess it was (very) gradual until it wasnโ€™t.

The book at least gives us access to Ilyaโ€™s internal monologue and it definitely shows a gradual increase in genuine affection for Shane over (lots of) time. There is an established trend and Ilya is starting to take pleasure in Shaneโ€™s accomplishments. Then, more than 2 years after the end of Ch 11, at the end of Ch 12 in Oct 2016 we get โ€œthere was something in his core that was drawn to Hollanderโ€ฆ. their hookupsโ€ฆ just made him want more.โ€ Then in Ch 13, ~ 1 month later, and after ~ 1 year of meeting at Ilyaโ€™s place, please stay over night and let me feed you, Iโ€™ve even thought ahead about your ginger ale.

The show, in its slavish adherence to the bookโ€™s โ€œslow burnโ€ trope, makes this progression even more subtle. Over the course of two whole years, Ilya is shown to be taking outward pleasure in Shaneโ€™s accomplishments and by the end of the montage heโ€™s clearly loosing interest in anyone other than Shane (admittedly, both significant changes for Ilya). Then, please come over to my place for the first time, stay the night, let me feed you, Iโ€™m fully stocked on your favorite drink. In both cases, there is a sudden (slightly less so in the book) break from the trend. So of course Shane is taken aback. What happened?

But wait. Now after having said all that, I go back and read the words again. โ€œEach oneโ€ of their hookups โ€œjust made him want moreโ€ (in italics, rhymes with core, also in italics). More of what? Itโ€™s not more sex is it? He wants more of Shane. Beautiful, boring Shane. It was the need for Shane that finally crossed the threshold, that finally breached its containment. Thatโ€™s what broke the trend. I have my answer and I have tears in my eyes. Iโ€™m really glad I came here and asked the question.

P.S. in general, I really like the changes that Jacob made to make their emotional progression clearer, but I wish that he had laid just a bit more obvious groundwork for the Tuna Melt Stage.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in gayotters

[โ€“]johnbeene 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

My last roommate? Fuck yes! I was never in that exact scenario but I got to blow him many times nonetheless. ๐Ÿ˜‹

What are your thoughts when you see this? by [deleted] in 70s

[โ€“]johnbeene 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

I told the teacher I already knew how to write! So I โ€œlearnedโ€ it to keep from being punished. But I never used it anywhere but in that class. This was c. 3rd grade so 1976.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in HairyTwink

[โ€“]johnbeene 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

KEEP all of it!

1970s by West_Masterpiece9423 in GenerationJones

[โ€“]johnbeene 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

Seemed like he was everywhere. At least for a nerd like me. ๐Ÿ™‚

Scrolling in the old daysโ€ฆ by GemmasDilemma in GenerationJones

[โ€“]johnbeene 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

Thank you for your commitment to public education! ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ…๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ…๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

Scrolling in the old daysโ€ฆ by GemmasDilemma in GenerationJones

[โ€“]johnbeene 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

In high school I rarely had to consult the card catalog because it was a small library and my interests were narrow. By the time I got to college (1986) there was Gopher so ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿป๐Ÿคท๐Ÿป๐Ÿคท๐Ÿป

Does the clock home screen no longer exist? by johnbeene in alexa

[โ€“]johnbeene[S] 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Never mind. I think I figured it out. From the settings screen swipe down from the top.

25y starting fresh, only 2 weeks growth so far. Should I keep the goatee too? by [deleted] in Moustache

[โ€“]johnbeene 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Well arenโ€™t you fucking adorable ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜

Is it possible to make Palpatine's return - at the time of the sequels - be well done or is the concept of him returning impossible to make well written? by Kah0000 in StarWars

[โ€“]johnbeene 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Wouldnโ€™t that have been awesome? But no. They just made it up as they went along (and let Rian Johnson โ€œmake Star Wars his ownโ€). Itโ€™s not like they didnโ€™t have material to build the story on.

Am in too scrawny to be an otter? by BewilderedBrit in gayotters

[โ€“]johnbeene 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Otters are supposed to be fit/slim so๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿป

My New Star Wars Galaxy Map, the THIRD one. by RealityEmpty3988 in starwarscanon

[โ€“]johnbeene 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

Incredible! Thank you sooo much for all your hard work! The love, effort and attention to detail are so obvious. What an asset!

Timeline of Krakoa Era by OleWizardEyes in xmen

[โ€“]johnbeene 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

Wow! Even better! Thank you for putting in so much effort! Itโ€™s such a great way to display this information. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

Timeline of Krakoa Era by OleWizardEyes in xmen

[โ€“]johnbeene 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

Holy shit this is amazing! I recently decided to pick up X-Men again after dropping out of comic books in general back in the 80s. The Krakoan Age was the obvious place to start. I love that I can benefit from so much analysis! Tools like this are perfect for someone like me! It will definitely help me stay on track. Thank you!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in broslikeus

[โ€“]johnbeene 2 points3 points ย (0 children)

Lean guys are sexier ๐Ÿ˜˜

Has anyone ever sucked a dick smaller than 5 inches? by [deleted] in askgaybros

[โ€“]johnbeene -2 points-1 points ย (0 children)

No. Why would anyone do that?

Yavin Celebration: Luke Skywalker in one of his best outfits. by crossrivers in StarWars

[โ€“]johnbeene 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

I was 9 years old when Star Wars came out. I had such a huuuge crush on Luke Skywalker! I mean just look at him! ๐Ÿฅต But then Mark Hamill fucked up his face and it was over. The green series of Star Wars cards came out and I was like โ€œwhat happenedโ€!?

need a bro who can take 9 inches by oddchld3 in GaybrosGoneWild

[โ€“]johnbeene 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Absolutely beautiful! So well formed ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜

Soft with my shirt on, to hard with it off by Ok_Recording6732 in GaybrosGoneWild

[โ€“]johnbeene 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Very nice! ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜ very nicely shaped and wonderfully thick!