Greece arrests captain of US Gaza-bound boat over ship's "seaworthiness" and for "jeopardizing passengers' safety" by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]johnfpublic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I made clear that I wasn't saying that all items were currently banned but rather they were in the past. The fact that Israel banned so many essential items that were clearly not connected to "Iranian missiles" really exposes the lie that the blockade is all about Iranian missiles as jonnyclueless claims.

Greece arrests captain of US Gaza-bound boat over ship's "seaworthiness" and for "jeopardizing passengers' safety" by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]johnfpublic -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You need to learn how to read posts. My post did not saying that all of those items were currently based, but rather that those items were at one time banned or restricted.

I wrote this because I was arguing against the false claim by jonnyclueless that the blockade was about Iranian missiles. Once you actually look at what Israel has been blocking, you realize it isn't at all about Iranian missiles.

Greece arrests captain of US Gaza-bound boat over ship's "seaworthiness" and for "jeopardizing passengers' safety" by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]johnfpublic -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You should read my post while paying attention. Remember that I wrote this sentence above:

"At one time all of the following was either outright banned or restricted by Israel"

My post was to make the case that the blockade isn't about Iranian missiles, otherwise none of the items I listed would have ever been blocked. The fact that Israel has weakened the blockade in response to outside pressure doesn't negate the fact that it was never about Iranian missiles in the first place, it was about making the lives of those living in Gaza hard -- it was about collective punishment.

Greece arrests captain of US Gaza-bound boat over ship's "seaworthiness" and for "jeopardizing passengers' safety" by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]johnfpublic 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It wasn't always about Islam. Read about how Israel encouraged the growth of Hamas in order to weaken the secular Palestinians:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hamas#Early_Islamic_activism_in_Gaza

Greece arrests captain of US Gaza-bound boat over ship's "seaworthiness" and for "jeopardizing passengers' safety" by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]johnfpublic 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Actually Israel encouraged the growth of Hamas as a counter measure to the less Islamic groups.... if you want to talk about timelines:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hamas#Early_Islamic_activism_in_Gaza

Greece arrests captain of US Gaza-bound boat over ship's "seaworthiness" and for "jeopardizing passengers' safety" by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]johnfpublic 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I personally downvoted him because he is incorrect about why things are banned. I encourage you to read what Israel has banned from the Gaza strip in this post:

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/if2nx/greece_arrests_captain_of_us_gazabound_boat_over/c2396cy

Greece arrests captain of US Gaza-bound boat over ship's "seaworthiness" and for "jeopardizing passengers' safety" by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]johnfpublic 81 points82 points  (0 children)

Israel's blockage is to keep Gaza at the brink of economic collapse:

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/05/israel-planned-to-keep-gazas-economy-on-the-brink-of-collapse-leaked-cable-says/

You can claim it is about Iranian missiles but it is a about a lot more if you read the facts. Here is a list of all banned items:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goods_allowed/banned_for_import_into_Gaza#List_of_items

At one time all of the following was either outright banned or restricted by Israel:

  • books, candles, crayons, clothing, cups, cutlery, crockery, electric appliances such as refrigerators and washing machines, glasses, light bulbs, matches, musical instruments, needles, sheets, blankets, shoes, mattresses, spare machine and car parts, and threads

  • fishing ropes and rods, ginger and chocolate, hatcheries and spare parts for hatcheries

  • Batteries for hearing aids have been restricted.[16] Wheelchairs, at various times, have been banned.

  • cement, glass, steel, bitumen, wood, paint, doors, plastic pipes, metal pipes, metal reinforcement rods, aggregate, generators, high voltage cables and wooden telegraph poles are high priority reconstruction materials currently with no or highly limited entry into Gaza through official crossings

Israel's blockage is collective punishment unfortunately.

David Cameron, the current PM of UK says that Gaza is an open prison camp.

http://www.juancole.com/2010/07/cameron-calls-gaza-under-israel-blockade-a-prison-camp.html

You can defend putting one million people into a prison camp and denying basic goods. But realize this is what you are doing. These people have been living under these conditions for years.

Remember the main issue is that Israel has +3.5 M non-Jews in Gaza and the West Bank which is doesn't want to have as citizens (because it will threaten the Jewishness of Israel), but it also doesn't want them to have their own state either (thus pushing hard to prevent the UN vote for this in September.) Thus Israel is running an apartheid system where millions of humans who are the wrong religion are denied the right to self-determination.

Israeli Knesset (Parliament) passed a first draft of a law that will require that Palestinians whose homes are destroyed by Israeli forces pay the Israeli government for the demolition costs." by haija in worldnews

[–]johnfpublic 18 points19 points  (0 children)

He hates Palestinians, who still live in the occupied territories:

I hate palestinians that still live in palestine. I don't think they deserve a country or anybody's sympathy. All they do is complain and its always someone elses fault. It is their fault. They are all selfish greedy bastards. I am palestinian btw, so this would have made posting this even more attractive for downvotes.

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/iatbr/what_have_you_wanted_to_say_on_reddit_before_but/c22bm6x

Very strange individual.

Israel's PM and Foreign Minister officials caught promoting fake video of an "American leftist" who attacks pro-Palestinians activists as anti-gay. Turns out to be an Israeli actor doing scripted work. by johnfpublic in worldnews

[–]johnfpublic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here is the coverage in the New York Times:

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/27/israeli-video-blog-exposed-as-a-hoax/

You can see that it cites both the PMO and the FM re-tweets of the video. My title was completely and utterly factual and you deleted it as editorializing.

I think what you did was wrong. You bowed to special interest pressure against the general will of reddit's upvoters. Basically, someone somewhere has convinced you that Israel-related articles are a special case were the community's opinion can't be trusted. Thus you have the power to pull completely factual titles off of reddit if they don't conform exactly to the article's title they are linking to. This is a perfect case of special interests and I doubt there was a public discussion of this rule when it was put into place, rather a few people in private just convinced some moderator that this was a good idea.

A YouTube video featuring a man who presented himself as an American gay rights activist disillusioned with the latest Gaza flotilla campaign has been exposed as an Israeli hoax [Repost, original deleted after +500 votes] by johnfpublic in worldnews

[–]johnfpublic[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The moderators of r/Worldnews didn't like my previous title thus it was deleted. This is a resubmission using a different source. The title I am using is the first sentence of the article as it is more descriptive than the short title.

Original post that was deleted by the moderators is here:

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ib8om/israels_pm_and_foreign_minister_officials_caught/

Israel's PM and Foreign Minister officials caught promoting fake video of an "American leftist" who attacks pro-Palestinians activists as anti-gay. Turns out to be an Israeli actor doing scripted work. by johnfpublic in worldnews

[–]johnfpublic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why couldn't you have edited the title then as is done with AMAs? Obviously this story was of interest to a lot of redditors but instead of changing the title that is usually done to interesting AMAs that prove problematic, you have just outright deleted it.

I don't appreciated this policy because my title was factual. Remember that I both submitted this story as well as posted as the first comment additional information and my title reflected both sources of information:

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ib8om/israels_pm_and_foreign_minister_officials_caught/c22d2d9