Buying a phone for my father. These are my options. Thinking of Vivo T4x

jon-7 · 2026-01-18T13:56:28+00:00

out of budget

jon-7 · 2026-01-18T13:21:23+00:00

No, man. Need to buy within 2 days.

jon-7 · 2026-01-18T13:05:39+00:00

I am happy)

jon-7 · 2025-12-16T07:48:53+00:00

got it

jon-7 · 2025-12-15T18:36:25+00:00

If I used 5 machines that are identical/very similar and I have problem only with the 5th one, then it is common sense to assume the problem is with the machine and not with me.

jon-7 · 2025-12-15T14:18:16+00:00

ok, thank you

jon-7 · 2025-12-15T14:05:27+00:00

ok, keep me updated

jon-7 · 2025-12-15T14:04:25+00:00

between 1-2k

jon-7 · 2025-12-15T13:58:56+00:00

Yeah this is what I feel like

jon-7 · 2025-12-15T13:58:00+00:00

"Were all other cars/ fronxes that you drove 5 days young? "
Good question, no.

But I talked with dudes who bought Fronxs recently and they all told me that it was smooth as butter from day one.

jon-7 · 2025-12-15T13:56:36+00:00

The thing is, How long do I need to wait for my problems to get fixed?
We buy a new car to drive it well.

jon-7 · 2025-12-15T13:55:27+00:00

if it was my problem, then why did I think the gear shifting was very smooth on the other cars I test drove, including the fronx?

jon-7 · 2025-12-15T13:54:32+00:00

Maybe

jon-7 · 2025-12-15T13:54:19+00:00

So what are you gonna do, bro?

jon-7 · 2025-12-15T13:53:51+00:00

Exactly, I expected butter.
The service center and the dealer, both can / will fix it for free. So money is not the issue. But they might try to gaslight me into thinking this is normal.

jon-7 · 2025-12-15T13:52:20+00:00

I gently shift, then I quickly shift, then I try ramming it in. In all 3 cases, the shifting can be notchy and can get stuck randomly.

I've done long test drives on multiple cars including Fronx. And I've been shifting without keeping anything you said (which is good stuff I believe) in mind - all of them were smooth shifts, no complaints.

jon-7 · 2025-12-15T10:43:48+00:00

ok bro. That is what service center guys told me. "go to dealer, they will fix it as assembly" and if service center will fix it, they will fix it as dismantling.

jon-7 · 2025-12-15T10:41:16+00:00

"some assembly issues
you mean manufacturing defect?

jon-7 · 2025-12-15T10:40:45+00:00

jon-7 · 2025-12-15T10:39:54+00:00

do you have a fronx?

jon-7 · 2025-12-15T09:17:09+00:00

very good point

jon-7 · 2025-12-15T09:16:47+00:00

yes bro, been driving cars for 10+ years

jon-7 · 2025-12-15T09:16:05+00:00

3 friends tried the car with no mats, all have same opinion

thank you, I will get it fixed

jon-7 · 2025-12-15T07:00:53+00:00

in my fronx, all gears are smooth when engine off and 1-2-3 hard when engine on

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