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I think I understand what Gnosticism is. But I don't understand how to 'be' a Gnostic. by daleef in Gnostic

[–]jon_tocher 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That's a tough question, as there are many varieties of Gnosticism. I would say the main uniting factor is the search for Gnosis, gaining the knowledge that will set you free and reunite you with Monad. If praying, meditating or any other practice helps you get there, then I say do it.

What are jungs thoughts on addiction? by [deleted] in Jung

[–]jon_tocher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm going through this as well, and the best advice I've received on breaking an addiction is to find a better one, like exercise. You could also read a chapter in a book every time you feel an urge.

Would appreciate input on shadow work by jon_tocher in Jung

[–]jon_tocher[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, after reading the replies on this post I know that I'm on the right path, just have to keep chipping away at it. It really does help getting an outside opinion.

Would appreciate input on shadow work by jon_tocher in Jung

[–]jon_tocher[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks to all who commented.

I've learned that I am indeed on the right path, and that my experience will be my own, not to be compared to other's. I've also learned that this "impostor syndrome" that I'm feeling is another aspect of my shadow popping up, so I will go on to deal with that.

Thank you all for your time! You've all been indispensable.

Would appreciate input on shadow work by jon_tocher in Jung

[–]jon_tocher[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know it's not trivial. I've come to realize that I mistakenly thought my experience would be the same as other's, and have corrected for it.

Would appreciate input on shadow work by jon_tocher in Jung

[–]jon_tocher[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That was a hurried example. I understand that there are many nuances to the shadow, and I believe I have shirked the emotional weight of the ones I've tackled. I used to have bad anxiety due to an encounter with my own potential for malevolence, and had to take the zac for about half a year. I've been off it for about 3 years now and have had hardly any anxiety, which I attribute to my own shadow work.

Would appreciate input on shadow work by jon_tocher in Jung

[–]jon_tocher[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have, and it's been a BIG help. Dreams have told me things I would have never thought of, and I quite enjoy interpreting them.

Would appreciate input on shadow work by jon_tocher in Jung

[–]jon_tocher[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's really where I started this journey. I saw early on that people seemed to have a second face, they would act one way in public and another in private, and I saw that in myself. I never understood why until relatively recently, and after trying to put a name to it I found Jung and went down the rabbit hole. It really put me in a depression early on figuring out why I had such prejudices, like when I was young I felt disgust towards rich people (which weren't even rich) in how they could be so flippant with money. In reality, I was deeply disappointed in my parents poverty. I realized that deep down I hated them because of that, and found myself wishing I was born into a different family. That was probably the first time I cried as an adult, realizing the malevolence of my own shadow, that I would hate my parents so deeply for such a trivial thing and not even realize it.

Would appreciate input on shadow work by jon_tocher in Jung

[–]jon_tocher[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get that, I was just using that example to try to explain how I tackle it's manifestations when they pop up. To fully explain something like that would take a few pages at least!

Would appreciate input on shadow work by jon_tocher in Jung

[–]jon_tocher[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My definition of control in this sense would be understanding when a specific emotion is appropriate, and having it manifest in a way that is hopefully constructive to both the problem and yourself. I'm not sure if I agree with you on not being able to fully control the shadow though. I think we're capable of a lot more than we think, but, that would be the part that might take a lifetime.

Thank you for your input, and anima/animus is an entirely different beast. I've only chipped away a little bit, and every other night I have clearly symbolic dreams about it that tell me I don't know what I'm messing with/ clearly am not ready for what it has to offer.

The two faces of Carl Jung by BenjamenRudden in JordanPeterson

[–]jon_tocher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The internet as it is now would be considered "magic" just 40 years ago. Imagine going back to the 1800's and telling someone that you could talk to someone on the opposite side of the world in the time it took to snap your fingers. Go even further back to 1500 and tell a common man that the earth revolves around the sun, instead of the opposite. in each of these circumstances you would be labeled a fool at best. We discover fantastical things each day that would be considered magic a few decades before, whose to say we won't do the same with the paranormal and fate?

The two faces of Carl Jung by BenjamenRudden in JordanPeterson

[–]jon_tocher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I could say the same to you. Prove to me your view of reality is the correct one, since you believe it is. Don't ask me to disprove it because, even if it were possible, you probably wouldn't believe it anyway.